Bit of a damp squib was it not?
After all 6 minutes of it I was left wondering where the substance was. Instead, all I got was lame duck policy after lame duck policy as the Labour rhetoric was ringing in my ears.
They proposed to legislate to force themselves to reduce national debt. But if UK Plc goes bankrupt, does that mean all the MPs go to prison? Clearly not. You might therefore be wondering what the point is of a law that if broken carries no repercussions: I’m wondering the same myself.
They proposed to make schools better and so on but it’s same old same old and we’ve had 12 years of it.
Michael Gove said, “The government are trying to say the can abolish child poverty, that they can guarantee a legal right to good education and also that they can guarantee equality by simply passing legislation, as though by simply appending the Queen’s name to a piece of paper, somehow bad schools, inequality and poverty will disappear. We all know it’s far more complicated than that.”
A few old people will get some handouts, and the FSA was granted power to tear up bankers contracts if they are deemed to be encouraging risk for potentially high bonuses. I can’t see the latter ever being used; it seems to be the Government closing the door after the horse has bolted. But they’re more than happy to serve up a cool £55million bonus bucket for public sector workers. Can we tear up those contracts too?
The clash between Brown and Cameron after the speech was fairly entertaining. Cameron listed all Gordon’s failings and called for a general election and Brown chose to fight back with the standard class warfare that Labour has become accustomed to.
Cameron did make one point which I thought was important, particularly because it’s something that the Labour spin machine had tried to work. It was in relation to the 10% cuts in public spending which the Conservatives openly said would be required and were duly lambasted by the Government for, until such time that the Government were exposed to have been planning 10% cuts as well but by stealth.
This is the trouble with Labour: they are all liars. Or rather, they’re extremely liberal with the truth. Thats why they appointed that smiling bastard Rt. Rev. Tony Tosspot, so he, Alister Campbell and Peter Mandelson could spin and smear their way out of everything and come out looking good.
I just hope we can see the back of these lot then we can at least make a fresh start.
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Well said Phil, but I wont be voting for that Blair look alike ponce: Camron, the tories are no better and no different, just a fresher strain of germ, but equally odious and equally malignant.
I hate them both: labour and tory, both are scum.
Nick Griffin will probably get my vote or UKIP, either is fine by me.
Its time the whole political landscape changed, for ever.
I want the fringe parties to get mps, I will never ever vote labout,tory or limp demicks, ever again.
Goodbye Brown, Good bye Camron,tweedledum and tweedledee, crawl back under your stones.
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I would back a fringe party if I feel they had a chance of winning. I would like to vote for say UKIP (not gonna happen as long as that muppet Hamish is their candidate) to give the main parties a kick up the arse. But by not voting Conservative I could be letting Marsden back in by the back door. I plan to vote tactically for whoever has the best chance of ousting Marsden. MARSDEN OUT 2010!!!!
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I agree about getting Marsden out but Tory Fart Ron “Kensington” Bellend, no thanks!
I feel sorry for you TB, the choice is shocking.
Personally I would go for hamish or the BNP candidate, if there is one.
What about the lib dems?
who is their candidate?
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It is a bit of a problem for me in Blackpool South. I want Marsden out, but I don’t want Bell in after he revealed that he and his party are as sleazy as Tories can be.
The fact that we don’t know who the Liberal Democrats candidate is says a lot about the party and why they never make any inroads. What they gain in one place they lose elsewhere.
I wish I could divert my vote to a constituency where a fringe party or independent has a chance of kicking out a mainstream candidate.
Voting UKIP or BNP round here is a waste and you might as well vote Labour.
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Yes Phil, the technical term is thats its a “fucked up state of affairs”, at least for voters.Sounds like it will be case of the least of many evils.
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States the case for proportional representation though don’t you think?
At least then some minority interest groups would get a look in. I’m sick of the three mainstream parties that trade tit for tat arguments but are mostly the same.
I do think there’s a case for a Conservative party that is free of sleaze and is open and honest – even if their policies are the same; but if Ron Bell is anything to go by I see it being no different to this self invested, self interested Labour lot.
With MPs, it’s a case of what you don’t know can’t hurt you. Unfortunately for them, we now know, and we now predjudge them more than we ever did.
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Well put, thats why I no longer support mainstream parties.
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Well said Phil, I can’t wait until these bastards are history (well in most of the country), for god sake fellow Blackpool South residents don’t let that smug slimy toff Marsden back in or Blackpool and the country will continue to suffer. I can’t wait until Mr Cameron comes along and waves his magic wand and makes all the badness better, puts the Great back into Great Britain and turns us into a utopia. Just kidding but that’s the sort of rubbish Labour supporters spout about 1997 claiming Labour ‘saved’ the country. Labour supporters like their beloved politicians are very selective with their facts. I am not saying by any means life will be perfect under a new Government (Conservative or otherwise) but anything has to be better than the present option. I just find it hard to believe people still plan to vote Labour.
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Gordon had no answers for Cameron yesterday.
Good points were made about Labour’s failure on house building to which Gordon countered with some policy he’d implemented in June/July of this year. Shame it was a 1997 manifesto promise, eh?
Labour are just like the bankers whom they have slapped down – they love spending other people’s money. Until it runs out.
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If they spetn it right, I wouldnt complain but they WASTE it, on crap like diversity, equality,quangos, bureaucracy and PC.
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Fantastic summary Phil. The reason for the fiscal responsibility bill is purely to try to lay down a bad problem for the Conservatives when they take over – assuming everything is going to plan.
That’s why they didn’t choose to put in some meaningless legislation over MP expenses as well. The real problem is a majority of people in the UK are so thick they seem to believe any lie thrown at them – or they’re so self-centred they will vote for any politician that will put money in their benefits regardless of whether it bankrupts the country or not in doing so.
Not that I’m a fan of the Conservatives either – but I agree with TB – not voting Conservative could let the Labour party stay in power and right now they are disastrous for the country. I’m all for equality of opportunity and wealth – but Labour have made the situation worse than it’s ever been.
Most of our politicians are career politicians that have never lived in the real world and faced its problems. What we really need is a lot of ordinary people standing as candidates – and the deposit is actually only £500 with 10 people needed on the nomination paper (so it wouldn’t take much each to finance a candidate).
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Exactly and scorched earth style lame duck policies are utterly wrong. Political games should not be played in this way and this just serves as another example of how out of touch MPs actually are, in particular Labour ones.
I’d disagree a bit with what you say about them not living in the real world. A lot of the Labour MPs started out as poor unimportant workers many moons ago. Not earning much, hoping for a Labour party that would give to the many and not the few, etc, etc.
But once they get in, it’s like the whole “new money” scenario. They inherit the best economy for years and they go and fritter it away because they’re not used to having it. Like someone from a poor background that has spent a life on benefits winning the lottery and spending every penny on a helicopter that they can’t afford to run.
Thats one reason historically that MPs were all from upper class backgrounds – because they were all extremely well off and it was thought that they would be less inclined to make decisions in the name of money, or donations. I think we can say that this is a school of thought from the past and if anything the more money they have, the more likely they are to cream more off!
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Thats why we need a change of political landscape, more fringe parties and mps!
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It’ll need more than that though. You can have all the fringe parties you want but whats the point if nobody votes for them and the system doesn’t represent the support they have had?
In our current system, as you know, if Labour gets 10000 votes and a fringe party gets 9999 votes, then the 10000 that voted Labour get represented with a Labour MP and the 9999 that voted for the fringe party don’t get represented at all so they might as well not have voted. Is this right?
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True ,I also implied wholesale reform, PR is a start, this stranglehold of labour/tory has to be stopped.
Having said tha,t I hate the mainstream, i think Vince gable is a chancellor we need.
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Stranglehold is a good description but that’s what you get with first past the post.
PR has it’s own problems in that you could well have 100 different parties in there and you might end up with some Allahu Akhbar Islam Fundamentals Party with a controlling influence and a Christian Fruitloops Party opposing them.
You’d never get any decisions, and if you did, they wouldn’t benefit very many people.
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I agree completely PR would be a much fairer system. Thankfully in Blackpool we are lucky that we are not a solid Labour area like say the North East, Midlands, Liverpool etc so that people will actually switch parties. But in some areas there is such a strong presence of one party noone else has a chance. Its like in the Council elections, a useless councillor like Brian Doherty (Park) wins everytime because Park ward is dominated by Labour voting Grange Park. So if people in the better off parts of Park vote for other parties they are stuck with the Labour cllr like it or not. PR would hopefully end that system.
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Then a compromise between full blown PR and the current set up?
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“I’m all for equality of opportunity and wealth – but Labour have made the situation worse than it’s ever been.”
Very true frustrated, especially with a benefits culture.
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FOR TB! http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Blackpool39s-regeneration-firm-closed.5838835.jp
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Old news :p
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Good riddance to garrett though.
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sorry hes trying to worm his way back, another Roy Fisher?
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Yeah, just as useless but on a lot more money.
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I just had a horrible thought, what if Fisher goes for that £125k post, what if Garrett isn’t applying because they’ve done a deal to ensure Fisher gets the job like the Liebour Party did with Brown. That would just be the worst thing to ever happen to Blackpool. Its bad enough he even has that NHS job he’s not even qualified for. he should be kept well away from public office full stop.
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The ultimate nightmare for Blackpool!
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what a tosser!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8369693.stm
sums up labour!
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I can believe it but it’s something Labour have created to boost employment figures.
Seems like we’re in a circle of depression whereby companies are going bust, shops are closing, jobs are disappearing but the Government continue to create a civil service department for everything they can think of, creating jobs.
The outcome? We all end up working for the Government. It’s already like that in some areas of the UK.
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True, I do work for the govt anyway, but Blackpool is so dependant on it,we are heading towards a marxist/communist stye state, where not only the state controls our social lives through the nanny/PC culture but we will all end up working for the state,what a horrible thought!
But when big corporations dont reinvest, its not surprising!
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Consider-a-future-without-Blackpool.5843128.jp#4627696
what does contribute in kind mean?
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I thought you might do. And in answer to your question, probably what you put on the Gasjet lol.
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Do u like my new name mate?
look at the initials.
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Subtle lol.
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which for me is rare.
I love my job, working in accounting but the PC culture is obscene, thats how I learned to hate PC and labour.
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Next you’ll be telling me you’re a tax man.
Check out my post on the Gasjet – I’ll give it about an hour before some muppet reports it.
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good points, something that i should have said given my disdain of weaver et al.
i am no tax man, never will be.
i deal in modelling costs.
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Well said Harold, like I love my job in the NHS, but I hate how Labour has wrecked the NHS with its utter ineptitude and obsession with targets and bureaucracy. It makes me want to hurl hearing Brown or that ponce Andy Burnham calling Labour ‘the party of the NHS’.
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I was performing at a sportsmans’ dinner recently and the organisers seated me next to a Labour MP. He was whingeing that he’d had to pay back £2500 which he had ‘unwittingly’ overclaimed on his expenses.
He was upset because apparently a paper-shop near Westminster has got a sign in the window saying ‘No more than two MPs allowed in at one time.’
This guy was so out of touch with reality he was actually looking for sympathy, from a comedian.
I suggested he look in the dictionary, in between ‘shit’ and ‘syphillis.’
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