Comments on: Walk in, walk out http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/ Right-leaning Blackpool blog covering South Shore, North Shore, Marton, Bispham, Cleveleys and the rest of the Fylde discussing politics, local life, tourism, national issues and the rest of the world. Lively discussions encouraged! Tue, 22 May 2012 01:45:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2132 True Blackpudlian Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:59:52 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2132 Thankfully I have never been in the unfortunate position of being on the recieving end of an inquiry or needed representation. But I certainly think police get off a lot easier than nurses because they can bullshit their way to freedom. I would never go on strike because I don't believe in striking or trade unionism and I care about my patients I would never leave them in the lurch. Like I say the main reason I am an RCN member it is politically impartial and because I refuse to join an organisation that backs and subsidises the Labour Party. I think unions should be banned from having political links and should be impartial. Thankfully I have never been in the unfortunate position of being on the recieving end of an inquiry or needed representation. But I certainly think police get off a lot easier than nurses because they can bullshit their way to freedom. I would never go on strike because I don’t believe in striking or trade unionism and I care about my patients I would never leave them in the lurch. Like I say the main reason I am an RCN member it is politically impartial and because I refuse to join an organisation that backs and subsidises the Labour Party. I think unions should be banned from having political links and should be impartial.

]]> By: john http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2131 john Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:56:52 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2131 Once again TB you are painting our profession in a glorious light with comments “If my conduct is called into question by a member of the public, colleague or employer I can be suspended or even struck off in serious cases.” While this is true have you ever tried this I have with an alcoholic nurse I suspended her from my hospital and when I tried to pursue this further it was next to impossible, because before she had done anything to harm any individual patient we had intervened. I know she is still practising and I know she is a danger to her patients but due to support from the RCN and other nurses (who knew what a danger she was) nothing could be done about it. As for the RCN this is the worst union going they rarely stand up for their members rights and their reps are next to useless. Why don’t the nurses hold the country to ransom is simple you are well protected by the NHS and you can make a very good living (not working to hard in many cases) so why strike. Once again TB you are painting our profession in a glorious light with comments
“If my conduct is called into question by a member of the public, colleague or employer I can be suspended or even struck off in serious cases.”
While this is true have you ever tried this I have with an alcoholic nurse I suspended her from my hospital and when I tried to pursue this further it was next to impossible, because before she had done anything to harm any individual patient we had intervened. I know she is still practising and I know she is a danger to her patients but due to support from the RCN and other nurses (who knew what a danger she was) nothing could be done about it.
As for the RCN this is the worst union going they rarely stand up for their members rights and their reps are next to useless.
Why don’t the nurses hold the country to ransom is simple you are well protected by the NHS and you can make a very good living (not working to hard in many cases) so why strike.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2130 Philtheone Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:55:56 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2130 Indeed it is. Thats the worst part - their actions are all logged by "black box" recorders in their cars, so these coppers are getting off because of their (bullshit) explanations. No technicalities or anything. Like you say, because the judge believed them. Indeed it is. Thats the worst part – their actions are all logged by “black box” recorders in their cars, so these coppers are getting off because of their (bullshit) explanations.

No technicalities or anything. Like you say, because the judge believed them.

]]> By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2129 True Blackpudlian Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:47:22 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2129 Also spot on they do look after each other's backs and they are dishonest. Proper professionals will blow the whistle on bad practices for the protection of others. Police will happily see an innocent person criminalised or put the public in danger so one of the boys gets off and keeps his job and gold plated pension. A police officer once drove down a motorway at 158mph and claimed he was 'familiarising himself with the car', he put people's lives in danger but was cleared by an internal enquiry. Another one once drove a police vehicle at 70mph through a residential area to pick up a chinese takeaway. He claimed he was attending to an emergency. The force said there was no record of him being called to an incident, there was eyewitnesses describing his reckless driving and yet a judge let him walk free because he denied it. The judge made a stupud remark like 'As you are a police officer I can trust the evidence you give is the truth so I see no reason to prosecute' what a fucking joke, double standards or what? Also spot on they do look after each other’s backs and they are dishonest. Proper professionals will blow the whistle on bad practices for the protection of others. Police will happily see an innocent person criminalised or put the public in danger so one of the boys gets off and keeps his job and gold plated pension. A police officer once drove down a motorway at 158mph and claimed he was ‘familiarising himself with the car’, he put people’s lives in danger but was cleared by an internal enquiry. Another one once drove a police vehicle at 70mph through a residential area to pick up a chinese takeaway. He claimed he was attending to an emergency. The force said there was no record of him being called to an incident, there was eyewitnesses describing his reckless driving and yet a judge let him walk free because he denied it. The judge made a stupud remark like ‘As you are a police officer I can trust the evidence you give is the truth so I see no reason to prosecute’ what a fucking joke, double standards or what?

]]> By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2128 True Blackpudlian Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:40:25 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2128 Absolutely spot on, doctors and nurses would never hold the country to ransom, I feel nurses get a raw deal but we do care about the people we serve. The police who are already very well paid threatened to strike last year if it was made legal. Also tanker drivers, tube drivers and BA cabin crew who are extremely well paid just hold the country to ransom because of the greedy unions. I mean £39k for driving a tanker that is ridiculous. I agree completely sack them all and I would bet money on saying there would be no shortage of applicants. There are countless numbers who want to work but are stuck in the dole queue because of this recession who would be grateful to be tanker drivers for half the amount the overpaid fuckers are currently on and its they're not exactly hard to train, anyone can get a HGV licence in a week these days. Absolutely spot on, doctors and nurses would never hold the country to ransom, I feel nurses get a raw deal but we do care about the people we serve. The police who are already very well paid threatened to strike last year if it was made legal. Also tanker drivers, tube drivers and BA cabin crew who are extremely well paid just hold the country to ransom because of the greedy unions. I mean £39k for driving a tanker that is ridiculous. I agree completely sack them all and I would bet money on saying there would be no shortage of applicants. There are countless numbers who want to work but are stuck in the dole queue because of this recession who would be grateful to be tanker drivers for half the amount the overpaid fuckers are currently on and its they’re not exactly hard to train, anyone can get a HGV licence in a week these days.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2127 Philtheone Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:29:18 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2127 You raise an excellent point there. Nurses don't hold the country to ransom. Cabin crew.. lol.. well why can't they all just be sacked? Ronald Reagan <a href="http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id296.htm" rel="nofollow">had it right</a> when he sacked all the striking air traffic controllers in 1981. Police officers rarely get done for anything because the police is like an old boys' club. They all watch each other's back. You raise an excellent point there. Nurses don’t hold the country to ransom. Cabin crew.. lol.. well why can’t they all just be sacked? Ronald Reagan had it right when he sacked all the striking air traffic controllers in 1981.

Police officers rarely get done for anything because the police is like an old boys’ club. They all watch each other’s back.

]]> By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2126 True Blackpudlian Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:20:48 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2126 I can agree with danger money for firefighters but I agree the police are totally overpaid and poorly trained, I agree bring back proper police. I also agree totally there is no accountability in the police. In my profession you have to register with the NMC (Nursing & Midwifery Council) which is a legal requirement to practice. If my conduct is called into question by a member of the public, colleague or employer I can be suspended or even struck off in serious cases. There is nothing like that for the police. You make a complaint and they do an 'internal enquiry' where the officer(s) will always get off scot-free. Even when the IPCC investigates you rarely hear of officers being sacked at worst they will get a warning or suspension on full pay. Also like I have said before nurses don't go holding the country to ransom for a payrise like greedy overpaid tanker drivers and BA cabin crew. I can agree with danger money for firefighters but I agree the police are totally overpaid and poorly trained, I agree bring back proper police. I also agree totally there is no accountability in the police. In my profession you have to register with the NMC (Nursing & Midwifery Council) which is a legal requirement to practice. If my conduct is called into question by a member of the public, colleague or employer I can be suspended or even struck off in serious cases. There is nothing like that for the police. You make a complaint and they do an ‘internal enquiry’ where the officer(s) will always get off scot-free. Even when the IPCC investigates you rarely hear of officers being sacked at worst they will get a warning or suspension on full pay. Also like I have said before nurses don’t go holding the country to ransom for a payrise like greedy overpaid tanker drivers and BA cabin crew.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2124 Philtheone Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:52:21 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2124 Maybe the police and fire service get 'danger money'? I don't know. I don't believe the modern police officer is worth the money they get paid. If they were the old style copper that had authority, respect and was involved in communities then I would take that back. Unfortunately due to stupid rules you can be a copper if you're 5 foot nothing and look like a wet lettuce. That's one reason criminals aren't afraid any more. Another is that there's never any repercussions for their actions.. Maybe the police and fire service get ‘danger money’? I don’t know. I don’t believe the modern police officer is worth the money they get paid.

If they were the old style copper that had authority, respect and was involved in communities then I would take that back.

Unfortunately due to stupid rules you can be a copper if you’re 5 foot nothing and look like a wet lettuce. That’s one reason criminals aren’t afraid any more. Another is that there’s never any repercussions for their actions..

]]> By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2118 True Blackpudlian Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:07:43 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2118 I agree Frustrated there are rotten eggs but most nurses I work with myself are good honest hard-working people. I personally don't like the whole 'angels' image as a male nurse I find it feminises our profession. We do not simply 'look after' people anymore we are highly skilled professionals. I completely agree the bullying socialist unions have too much power which I why I avoid Unison like the plague I refuse to back any organisation that supports Labour. I am a Royal College of Nursing member myself. All I am simply saying is what makes police officers and other public sector workers who do not even attend university for 3 years to train so special they earn way more than nurses. I agree Frustrated there are rotten eggs but most nurses I work with myself are good honest hard-working people. I personally don’t like the whole ‘angels’ image as a male nurse I find it feminises our profession. We do not simply ‘look after’ people anymore we are highly skilled professionals. I completely agree the bullying socialist unions have too much power which I why I avoid Unison like the plague I refuse to back any organisation that supports Labour. I am a Royal College of Nursing member myself. All I am simply saying is what makes police officers and other public sector workers who do not even attend university for 3 years to train so special they earn way more than nurses.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2009/12/walk-in-walk-out/#comment-2108 Philtheone Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:22:49 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1115#comment-2108 Don't get me wrong I agree with you on the pay thing - I was merely referring to something True Blackpudlian had said as he is a nurse too. Don’t get me wrong I agree with you on the pay thing – I was merely referring to something True Blackpudlian had said as he is a nurse too.

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