What a load of grit!

 Posted by Philtheone at 12:31 pm  Uncategorized
Dec 302009
 

Following the recent cold snap and resulting icy conditions, Blackpool Council have been under fire from irate locals due to perceived lack of gritting.

Once again a council representative has painted a glorious picture. Jez Evans, the manager of Streetscene (whatever that is) has claimed that the gritters were out non-stop. If they were, then there are clearly not enough gritters because hardly anyone saw one and many major roads were left icy resulting in plenty of accidents.

I’m not talking about odd bits of patchy ice either, I’m talking about roads that look like and drive like an ice rink such that the little 1.2 Clio I was driving at 6.45pm on the 21nd of December could barely get any traction down St. Annes Road (but as I mentioned before, there was still evidence of madness as a cyclist kept trying to ride his mountain bike on it and ended up with his arse on the deck).

“People say they don’t see the gritters but we mainly do it through the night so they can get round the routes and through the traffic.” – Jez Evans, Manager of Streetscene

I’d buy that if in the morning the roads weren’t ice rinks, but they were. And why was that, Jez? Could it be because…

“..gritters were out from 9am until 2pm, and then from 6pm until midnight on Monday. They were due back out from 6pm yesterday until 2am today as the cold weather continued.”Gasjet

By 9am people had already had their accidents. You gritted at the wrong time, Jez. But that’s because you’re a jobsworth that doesn’t know anything about gritting and probably got a panicked phone call from the Police asking where the fuck the gritters were.

You let East Park Drive get so dangerous that it had to be closed off to motorists. All major routes were gritted, right. Apart from one to the hospital. Well done, Jez, have your nice fat bonus cheque.

Would it not have made more sense to get the gritters out at say 5am when temperatures start to rise so that early morning motorists crush the salt into the ice, meaning that by 8 or 9am the salt was spread nicely and major routes were less dangerous as a result?

Here’s a bit of chemistry I learned at school, Jezza. Salt lowers the melting point of water in proportion to the concentration of salt dissolved in it. A 10% salt solution has a melting point of -6C and a 20% salt solution -16C. Clearly when thinking about gritting, getting more salt on to the surface at as high a temperature as possible has to be better. So gritting at the coldest point in the night with no cars about seems like pissing in the wind.

The temperatures at that time were well below zero. There were no cars or buses around at that time to spread the grit; get it stuck on their tyres and roll it on the ice or crush it into the surface. And whats the point anyway if the temperature is so low that the concentrate of rock salt isn’t enough to melt the ice? Apparently once the road surface goes below about -9C there’s no point in gritting the roads and it’s better to spread sand instead, for grip.

The maximum grit permitted per square metre of road is 40 grams which is usually deployed in snow conditions. Was this the case, Jez?

The knives are out for the council on this one and to be quite honest if I were an insurance company I’d be tempted to send Jez Evans a bill accompanied by a legal process for all the crashes and chaos caused by his lack of gritting. I suspect that bill would be larger than having a few gritters sat in a depot somewhere or outsourcing the gritting, too.

Here are a few of the comments from the Gasjet, some of which have been deleted already:

“Mr Evans tows the corporate line…..you wouldn’t expect him to say there weren’t enough gritters out on Monday because everyone who smashed their car up on the ice like a couple of my friends did, would take action against Blackpool Council.” - THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE RIVER

“I feel Blackpool Council have let the public down again with their cavalier approach to gritting” - ci, Cleveleys

“I too have driven all over the Christmas period to and from work….. but at 7.45am on Monday the roads were like an ice rink….. i seem to remember an accident on Vicarage Lane during the snow!

“..we had enough warnings regarding the cold spell and something should have been done earlier! not at 9am! lets hope lessons have been learnt!” – LeChic

“gritters were out from 9 am on monday. this is totally unacceptable.

“i spent 2 years driving a gritter in surrey. it was the winter maintenance coordinators job to ensure he was up to date with the latest weather forecasts and get the salt down before the temp got to zero, gritters should have been out by 5 am at the latest not 9 am when everyone had crashed

“it was the same on the M55, smashes on both carriageways and then lo and behold along comes a gritter at 8.30. problems should not have to be “identified” salt should be applied before problems arise.” – cabbie2007

“I live in St Annes and I have to leave my house at 6am to walk to the bus stop and while the snow was on

“it took me over two hours to get to work in Preston, due to no buses as the roads were to dangerous…which shows nothing had been gritted.

“How come it works in other European countries but not in Britain?!” – Mel1981

“Its only been snowing in this country for the last million years,WHAT lessons will be learned?

“Snow falls and the road get slippy? If someone from the council is resposible for keeping the roads clear and fails to do so,then they are responsible,will they be sacked,removed from there job or even reprimanded?

“NO, nothing will happen except they will continue to sit in there untouchable ivory tower, drawing there fat pay check waiting for there subsidized pension! Until action is taken against these incompitent fools,NOTHING will ever happen,or lessons will be learned!” – MrHacked

“The gritting team might have worked around the clock, but how many gritters?

“Maybe they should put more gritters out or buy more with our continually rising community taxes and business taxes!” – Neal, Bpool

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  60 Responses to “What a load of grit!”

  1. Fylde really wasn’t gritted well either. Only the main roads were done – and that’s very few in LSA itself. My road was so treacherous on the second day of the bad weather I rearranged an appointment after watching a neighbour skid out of his drive and go straight back. Two walls on my road are down after obvious crashes into them rather than frost damage. The pavements were just as bad as the roads – except in the centre of town where the roads had been gritted but the pavements not (even over the Crescent in St Annes which if you don’t know is a nice curved arch of a railway bridge.) I did go to Tesco (Clifton whatever near the M55) on the first day and the roads were particularly icy with long queues. Really I expected better with the council building being on that road. And coming from a place that got a lot more snow than here I don’t think they gritted well at all. Far too few roads gritted. Far too little access to grit for the public to use on the pavements and trouble spots themselves. And I don’t believe they gritted at the right time anyway – the reason they grit at night I always believed to be a temperature one, not “we can get around the roads more easily then”. Do they not understand anything at all about the science of gritting? If not why don’t they just put the service out to tender to someone who does?

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  2. Unusually, the rock salt mix that the council had available in the road side bins had builder’s sand in it.

    I presume this is because they were low on supplies of rock salt itself, and so sought to stretch supplies as much as they could.

    Other local authorities ensured a plentiful supply of rock salt and used only rock salt surface traction.

    Did you know that Brighton & Hove’s council provide 400 salt bins for its residents and encourages them to make use of them? I can’t even count 4 in Blackpool.

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  3. Has anyone seen a single one in Lytham St. Annes?
    I know we don’t get snow and ice often but surely there could be some extras put out if the forecast shows we’re in danger os very icy roads.

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  4. i heard that on monday night the 21st, buses were pulled off at 9pm because the gritters were stopping working due to elf n safety, ie roads to icy, i wonder why they were to icy.
    i worked cab upto 1am that night and never saw a gritter. park road = ice rink, same for whitegate drive. so thats 2 major roads ungritted on the worse night.
    so how can the puppet spokesman say the gritters were out none stop.
    and to me working round the clock means a full 24 hours, not just few hours here and there.

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  5. If Jez Evans was on oath when he made those claims, he would have been charged with perjury by now.

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  6. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8437658.stm

    This should be fun????

    most provocative!

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  7. I think it is quite clear the ‘deleter’ has some kind of campaign against me. This morning I posted 2 comments on the article about hospital parking and the lies from that smarmy twat Andy Burnham and they were gone within 30 seconds but other comments were untouched. However my other comment on the ‘Hotels need to close’ article was left untouched and only disappeared when all the others did. So I believe it is a Liebour (banned word by Gasjet censorship, pathetic!) supporter and there is clearly several people at it. I believe they are targeting me because that obnoxious idiot BenidormRockSeller appeared with his usual pessimistic anti-Blackpool rantings and kept insulting me with his childish remarks. I have come back tonight and all the comments have been deleted except for the ones attacking me. So clearly some fucking loser is targeting me. I have done nothing wrong so I don’t see why they are doing it. But I feel the Gasjet and Johnston Press are totally unwilling to act on it.

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  8. Its Blackpool rock seller or seaside 1956;both are regular deleters and total cunts TB.

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    • Seasider1956 usually writes quite sensible anti-Labour comments I don’t think its them. My suspicions are the mysteriously vanished ‘dustin’, ‘Preston4ever’ or BenidormRockSeller. I even suspect it could be the ‘daughters’ of that ‘Ian’ who kept coming on here and attacking me. He claimed his ‘daughters’ had used his account and wrote all those abusive remarks. They are my prime suspects.

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  9. Oh that Ian, what a cunt he is and his scrubber of a “wife”; both labour PC marxist turd suckers.

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    • Totally, I just wish the Gazette would do something. It clearly says on their ‘forum house rules’ that people who abuse the comment reporting function will have their accounts blocked.

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  10. As you probably already know, its snowing heavily again.

    No gritters as far as ive seen, then again ive only been over harrowside, all the way up the prom, through town, and top end of whitegate drive.

    I thought the council dodged a bullet last week with their excuses. But honest to god… we KNEW this was coming this week.

    Absolute Fail.

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    • It certainly is and I am working at 1600 so I’m not looking forward to the drive there. I have not seen the main roads yet.

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      • Well I didn’t find it too bad apart from people who unlearned everything they ever knew about driving because there’s a bit of snow about.

        Having said that I didn’t need to travel around BVH area..

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  11. We’ve run out of rock salt! Can’t wait to hear their latest excuse… “It’s the wrong kind of snow for gritting!”

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  12. 12 months on from the article and comments above……… still no change.

    Rumour has it, that we only have 2 gritters in blackpool, kept at Layton Dept, the others have been sold to save money. Rumour also has it that we only have enough grit in store to last till the end of 29th Dec 10.

    If Jez Evans were to come out of his nice new office (recently promoted to assistant director of street scene, more council money wage rise) he would see that the roads have been an abortion.

    I am told on dam good authority that the Residents Association on Queens Park estate, have forked out nearly £500 buying grit and doing the gritting themselves with there volunteers. WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR GRIT, ok do it themselves, ok with that……. why cant others…… BUT MORE TO POINT WHY CANT THE COUNCIL GRIT…… lazy baskets. Cllr Callow/Fowler/Hendersons roads were gritted I CHECKED………….

    Devie road was like a skating rink, so was highfeild road, clifton road, and cherrytree…….

    Get a grip Jez Evans…………… and your council dept you couldnt organise a piss up in a bottle of cider.

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    • The roads were very well gritted compared to Fylde’s I can certainly confirm. I don’t see why every publically owned road can’t be gritted when they should as used to happen in the past. It’s only in the last couple of decades that we’ve been expected to put up with ice and danger on the roads and pavements. Even the bus routes weren’t done sufficiently to make them safe.

      And why can’t the government bring in legislation to stop people being able to sue others for falling on pavements and roads that they’ve tried to clear? It’s madness to try to encourage people to clear roads and pavements (at their own expense and efforts) and put them at risk of court cases from no win no fee solicitors because they allegedly didn’t do the job well enough when someone in need of some cash in this recession reports they fell there months after the event as can happen now. Oh yes I do know. Because they are totally and utterly clueless and useless.

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    • Coun Callow and Henderson’s roads were gritted because they live on busy main roads NOT because they are councillors and Couns Fowler was NOT gritted, I live 5 minutes from St Lukes Rd and walk down there regularly it was NOT gritted, I know for a fact.

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      • TB as a true conservative, I cant beleive you are backing a feckless fool like Peter Callow;hes a clown.

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        • He really is not as bad as he is made out to be and I have met him. Jonbamboro keeps trying to claim I have no mind of my own but I do and I genuinely find him a decent bloke and thankfully he shares my view that the town would suffer if Labour get back in.

          Besides Voice of ‘Reason’ was talking a load of rubbish above, St Lukes Rd was NOT gritted, it is a small residential road.

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          • TB – When I have I claimed you do not have a mind of your own? I was just correcting you on sothing you said that was not quite true. Neither Peter Callow or the Conservative group pushed the Council Officers to come up with a plan B and it wasn’t the Labour group who scuppered the Storm City plan (the same plans that Steve Bate and I put in front of Steve Weaver two years earlier!!!).

            The plain facts are that both Roy Fisher and his group and Peter Callow and his group do whatever the officers tell them. I will reserve judgement of Simon Blackburn but he knows what needs to be done at the Town Hall – a complete clearout of the deadwood.

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            • Here here Jon!!! Spot on!

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            • You may not have actually said it per se, but I feel it has been implied in some of your recent comments like when you said ‘He is one of Callow’s troops’ I think for myself and I do have a mind of my own. I am aware you and Steven Bate were against the casino which I respect you for because I was always strongly against the casino myself. As much as I loved the look of Storm City sadly it was a grand idea without the grand capital to back it. I sincerely hope now the snowdome will become reality. I went to Trafford Centre today and looking at the wonderful centre itself and its surroundings they are centuries ahead of us. We need such modern and exciting ambitious plans. Blackburn thinks we should do away with tourist attractions and scrap the illuminations. Shows what great plans he has for Blackpool. Blackpool will regret it if he ever becomes Council Leader.

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            • “We need such modern and exciting ambitious plans”

              with dinosuars like Callow and idiots like Blackburn, NOT a chance.

              The only way to improve Blackpool is to rip out the substratum of human feculence thats been runinng it for the last 40 years.

              That means 90% of councilliors and the executive; all MUST go.

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            • Harold is 100% right on this.

              TB, I have nothing against you personally – I don’t know you that well, although we have met a couple of times. However, the tone of your regular postings both on this site and on the gazette site would leave anyone to believe that you would be no more than voting fodder for Peter Callow. According to your many hundreds of posts EVERTHING Labour does is wrong whilst most of what Callow does is fantastic.
              Until you start to see people for who they are and stop just labelling them socialists or whatever, then you will not get elected, and even if you did – you would make a poor representative.

              I hope I am wrong but the impression you give is that if someone turned up on your ward wearing vote labour badge they would not receive the same treatment as anyone else. Quite simply that is wrong – please read over some of your recent posts and you will see what I mean.

              Like I said earlier I have not attacked you unduly, I have just said it as it is, no one is perfect – esp me so please accept my criticism in the right spirit as I have no intention of starting a war with a pseudonym!

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            • Well put John and I agree, I feel TB has sadly been made into voting fodder for Herr Callow and thats tragic.

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            • Harold I can reassure you I am not anyone’s fodder, I have a mind of my own. I see where you are coming from but I am not some kind of puppet now I am running for election.

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            • But TB will you openly condemn Callow and co, ie the fowlers? the traffic mess made by maxine? etc?

              or will you do what Herr callow says and keep stum?

              These rotten gangsters have screwed this town for years and are still doing so!

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            • When I feel wrong has been done I will say so, but when you are in a party (any party) you have to stand by your party. I am not a sheep, I do have a mind of my own, but in politics things are not always simple.

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            • Out of interest Jon when have I ever met you in person? I can’t recall any occasions. I have no problem with your constructive criticism, I did not think you were attacking me and I too have no intention of warring. I genuintely do believe Labour are wrong on 99% of things and that is my personal political views, that has nothing to do with me being a candidate whatsoever. I would not be a poor representative. I am passionate about Blackpool and my area and really care about this town a damn sight more than some elected people in Blackpool (you know who I mean) and I feel I would be a good representative. I would not treat Labour candidates any different, that one you do have wrong. I am a completely different person in the flesh, yes I may despise their politics passionately but I would treat them no differently.

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            • 100% agree with you there Harold got one son finished Uni last year another starts in three years and two more to follow all I can say is I hope the LDs get some back bone and do what is right.

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            • Also Jon notice how in the eyes of Labour supporters and MPs, all the Conservatives can ever do is wrong. They blame EVERYTHING on Margaret Thatcher and the Conservatives and they act like they never do any wrong. The recent tuition fees vote a perfect example. They commissioned the wretched Browne Report, and then because they are in opposition cynically vote against the fee rises and let the Coalition take the blame. It is not that Liebour care about students, it was just a stunt to make Red Ed look good. I just students are not conned by it. I plan to be a student again in the future and they certainly don’t fool me.

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            • So TB, its back to square one:PARTY before PUBLIC duty, I am saddened because I have always admired you and your staunch passion.I hope and want to be wrong on this.You have been CALLOWFIED,lol.If you are elected I hope these are the issues you take forward and reverse this madness brought in by the Callows who are wrecking this town with their transport policies.

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            • Rest assured Harold, I have plenty of ideas for my local area and I am as passionate about Blackpool as ever, that has not gone anywhere. But the only way in politics you can completely speak on your own is to be an independent candidate. Maybe you should do it in your area Harold.

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            • Its an idea I have toyed with but the scuurent setup means I would be buried, assuming I was voted in.Look at what they did to a first class councillor like Mark hamer, BASTARDS!

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            • You have just proved Jon right TB when he implies that you are just a blind conservative. The government didn’t have to act on the wretched Browne Report but they did therefore they are to blame no one else and as I have pointed out before the conservatives set this ball rolling with the Dearing report. You say labor don’t care about the students you may be right but neither does the conservatives.

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            • The students have been made pawns in this shabby political mess,not a way to treat young people today who will be the leaders tomorrow.

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            • No interested, I am NOT ‘blind’ at all. Whenever I call Liebour supporters ‘blind’ you say I am ‘insulting’ people yet you do it to me. I am NOT blind I have a mind of my own and I find your comment very insulting. I never said any party cares about students but I sincerely hope students are not conned by Labour MPs voting ‘against’ the fees rise they called for. They commissioned the wretched report for god sake. They voted against purely for ideological reasons not for students.

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            • TB I am only using your reasoning against you constantly you use such words and say you are not insulting people so when I use the same words on you how can that be insulting?
              I don’t agree with student fees I do however understand the Labour introduction (of a conservative policy), which was to allow more people to enter university. We all know before the fees were introduced then there was only a limited number of places available and they went to the students with the best A levels (I have no problem with this and I think this is as should be). However as TB pointed out himself some students don’t achieve their best in exams at school and are more then intelligent enough to go on and get a good degree. So the argument for introducing the £3000 a year fee was that the underachievers at school had a chance of going on to get a degree. Therefore the extra money allowed more students then the government could afford to go to university. So not a way of reducing government funding of university but an attempt to increase funding without increasing the burden to the tax payers. As I said I can understand the argument but I don’t agree with it.
              Now the same can’t be said about the tripling of the fees which this government has introduced all this is about is the cutting of funding by the government to universities. This is why I am calling TB a blind conservative voter because he is criticising the Labour party and students (calling demonstrators left wing) and not criticising the conservative party and the conservative MPs who (in TBs own words) have had free education and deny this to the next generation.

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            • I have criticised the Conservative MPs, I am furious the fees rise got voted through but I am simply saying students should not believe Labour is on their side, because they are not. I think people who underachieve at school but develop later (myself for one) should have the opportunity to go to university as well, it should not be exclusive to people with the highest grades. Grades do not make the best doctors, lawyers and teachers.

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            • Sorry I must have missed this critic of the conservative MPs I do however remember you saying under the present financial situation you agree with it. But really you agree with the first fee charge which was to allow failed students (such as yourself) a chance of a degree education.
              By the way do you care to comment on my previous past first paragraph?

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            • You seem to have misinterpreted my comment, I was pointing out your hypocrisy. Whenever I call Labour supporters ‘sheep’ which I feel most of them are, you say I am being ‘insulting’ yet you feel it is alright for you to do it to me. I am NOT a sheep, I have a mind of my own. I think about who I vote for. So I do not take kindly to being referred to as ‘blind’ because I am NOT.

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            • You are confusing me TB you say calling people sheep isn’t an insult when you say it but when I apply it to you it is. Surly that can’t be right?
              Also do you feel the Labour policy of fees was correct in that it allowed failings students a second chance at further education? And if not why not?

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            • You are confused interested because that is NOT what I said. I did NOT say ‘It is alright when I do it’. I said I find it insulting when you call me ‘blind’ because I am not blind, I have a mind of my own. I actually know some Liebour supporters and they vote Liebour for the most irrational and silly reasons. I think about who I vote for. I am speaking from experience. You are simply calling me ‘blind’ to get your own back.

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            • Sorry TB I can’t imagine why you feel I need to get my own back on you (paranoia). You use these words and comments freely and say they are not insulting but when turned on you they are. In fact they are just sad generalisations while agree there are Labour supporters who will vote Labour no matter what there are Conservatives ( and I honestly feel you are one) who will do the same. If you ask a conservative sheep voter why they vote conservative they will say
              “reduction of tax” tax is going up,
              “hard on crime” why are they shutting prisons and courts and reducing police spending if that’s the case,
              “there for the army” my father was in the army as was my grandfather and uncle and cousins governments don’t give a shit about the armed forces,
              “their carful with tax payers money” not if you look at the councils in the northwest their not.
              I could go on but there is little point because your argument would that the Labour party are worse. However I am not a Labour voter I do think about who I vote for and the person not just the rosette.
              By the way do you agree with the Labour party on tuition fees if it allowed underachievers to have a chance of getting a degree?

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            • Liebour did not bring fees in to help late developers like myself, they brought them in to meet this senseless target of getting 50% into university. I do not agree with tuition fees full stop. I am NOT a sheep, I do think about who I vote for. I am a Conservative because I hate socialism. I do not believe we should all be equal. I do not believe in Government interference. I want small Government and a small public sector. I know people who vote Liebour for ridiculous reasons like ‘I don’t a Cabinet of toffs’ (well most Labour frontbenchers are toffs also) or because ‘Labour is in the blood’, I believe in free education and healthcare (Labour introduced tuition fees and has hiked up NHS charges), I believe in fairness (Don’t even get me started!!!).

              I also look at candidates as well as parties. I wouldn’t vote UKIP because Hamish was the candidate (cringes!!!), I feel Marsden does NOTHING for Blackpool and doesn’t even live here and so on and so forth.

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            • I am a Conservative, because I believe in aspiration. I believe hard work should be rewarded. I have ambitions in life and plan to get there by hard work. Labour punishes people who want to better themselves.

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            • Good for you TB how exactly are this government helping that dream, because at present most of my time is spent trying to hold on to my senior staff because of the tax regime of this government. I had a hard start in life got no help from anyone I could have been where I am now ten years ago if I had a tiny bit of help from the government. This would have benefited the government as well as me and my family.

              Now about the fees the Labour government set a target of 50% which regardless what you say allowed failing student such as you a chance for a degree course. So with that in mind do you still say that the fees where bad (I do)? I also wonder how you can support a party which triple the fees when you use it as a reason why you can’t support a Labour party.

              OH I don’t think Labour are a socialist party and free healthcare and education proves to me they are not because they are the cornerstone to socialism.

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            • Fees did not help me get into university. I simply did not fulfill my full potential in school but now I have matured and learned some lessons and now take my education much much seriously and will eventually embark on my studies in medicine. The 50% is unworkable and silly, it does not help late developers get into uni, it is simply a target that has led to the creation of mickey mouse courses to make up the numbers.

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            • It may not have helped you TB but that wasn’t the question was it. The fees allowed more places for more students to go to universities and get a degree education the tripling of the fees aren’t doing the same in fact they will do the opposite and make it a lot harder for students to go.

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            • Labour did not help people go to university. Under the Conservatives, you could go to university for FREE. It was Labour that phased out free education. Then they trebled fees in 2004 but noone was bothered. Labour also scrapped adult education funding in 2007 meaning second-degree takers are facing UPFRONT fees of £20k a year in some courses, tell me that is ‘fair?

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            • Funny – I could have said exactly the same thing about Fylde. There the Chief Exec reports Cllrs to the Standards Board if they make comments about his (pathetic) performance. Cllrs must have all the power – they are the ones elected and they are the ones accountable to the people. Officers are merely there to advise – and they do – but often with a totally biased summary of the argument so that they get what they want. And that is not acceptable practice in a democracy.

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            • Hi frustrated, My own view of wyre is that the council is run by a cartel,all of whom are conservative;the cartel dictates and councillors do as they are told, except mark hamer who was deselected.

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            • Jon – Agreed Lets see what Blackburn can do after all he cant do worse than Mr Callow and his corrupt counter parts now can he. Bet Folwers scaffolding company wont get so many contracts. Blackburn comes over as a sincre and honest lad, give him a chance. He if cocks up, no doubt he will do what Callow wont or cant. BE HONEST

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            • well the more callow carries on, the more promising Simon Blackburn is and i am no zanulabour supporter.

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            • wonder if Cllrs Callow are card carrying Labour Party Members they have done more for labour recruitment in the last 6 months that Blackburn and his party in general…..

              Keep the Red Flag Flying –

              Recruitment by Blackpool Torys at Callow Corner.
              all replies to The Leader of Blackpool Council at PO Box 50 or via the Leaders PA Nichola Lamb on tel 477000

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          • TB he may well be a decent boke but that doesnt qualify him as the person to lead Blackpool out of the mess its in, the reality/truth is,he was a major part of the political class that led Blackpool into the mess its in.

            Personally, if I could, I would set up a panel of experts, where the town is run by someone from the CBI who would select suitable councillors (regardless of party), someone who has no vested interest in Blackpool apart from turning it around.

            Callows/Fowlers/Weaver/Cavill/France are not the answer any more than Blackburn and co are.

            The vast majority of local politicians and council officers are utter SHITE.

            Labour = Conservative = feckless children who are out of their depth.

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      • Typical Tory Clap Trap, yet another pointless post from TB…. See gazette 29/12/10…. more of this tory muppets rantings…….. GET A LIFE TB… Your a thing of the past…..

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        • Now that you are a Conservative Candidate TB isn’t it time you started posting under your own name? In the Gasjet as well as on here?

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