Comments on: Binge drinking voters get 2-for-1 booze ban http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/ Right-leaning Blackpool blog covering South Shore, North Shore, Marton, Bispham, Cleveleys and the rest of the Fylde discussing politics, local life, tourism, national issues and the rest of the world. Lively discussions encouraged! Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:53:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Burlington exposed in underage drinking swoop « Philtheone.com http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2859 Burlington exposed in underage drinking swoop « Philtheone.com Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:30:48 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2859 [...] spoke the other day about the mainstream reforms in relation to purchasing alcohol: the extra taxes on [...] [...] spoke the other day about the mainstream reforms in relation to purchasing alcohol: the extra taxes on [...]

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2784 Philtheone Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:29:19 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2784 I don't think raising the age limit will have any effect at all because there will still be people old enough to buy alcohol for younger people. After all, the age limit is 18 now but does that mean that kids as young as 10 are not drinking alcohol? Apparently not. Is under age drinking the problem they're trying to address, though? Looking at the comments from the prime minister, home secretary and shadow home secretary it appears that it's just drink fuelled violence, be it vandalism or spouse beating. I don’t think raising the age limit will have any effect at all because there will still be people old enough to buy alcohol for younger people.

After all, the age limit is 18 now but does that mean that kids as young as 10 are not drinking alcohol? Apparently not.

Is under age drinking the problem they’re trying to address, though? Looking at the comments from the prime minister, home secretary and shadow home secretary it appears that it’s just drink fuelled violence, be it vandalism or spouse beating.

]]> By: Blackpool First Alliance http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2783 Blackpool First Alliance Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:21:03 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2783 In the seventies in Fleetwood the fine was £25 for being drunk and disordely in the street. Plus your name and maybe picture was in the paper. This was quite effective, now of course the fine would need to be £250 and video of your dunken behavour on Youtube, but it may be worth a try. Nobody minds the drinking it is the bad behavour that should be stopped, set up stocks in the street outside the bars if the cells are full. In the seventies in Fleetwood the fine was £25 for being drunk and disordely in the street. Plus your name and maybe picture was in the paper. This was quite effective, now of course the fine would need to be £250 and video of your dunken behavour on Youtube, but it may be worth a try.

Nobody minds the drinking it is the bad behavour that should be stopped, set up stocks in the street outside the bars if the cells are full.

]]> By: Harold Ernest Gokdogan http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2771 Harold Ernest Gokdogan Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:21:21 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2771 Jesus Christ DK rants as bad as me! Jesus Christ DK rants as bad as me!

]]> By: Harold Ernest Gokdogan http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2770 Harold Ernest Gokdogan Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:03:47 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2770 They way things are going,we will need to have a licence to PURCHASE alcohol, shit, shouldnt have said that, thats another money spinner! They way things are going,we will need to have a licence to PURCHASE alcohol, shit, shouldnt have said that, thats another money spinner!

]]> By: TrooBloo http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2769 TrooBloo Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:57:56 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2769 I think the simplest answer is to restrict the sale of alcohol from supermarkets. I think there should be much tougher tests in order to obtain a license to sell alcohol and anyone selling it should have a licence. The minimum age should also raised to 21. Draconion measures maybe, but there needs to be some responsibility by those selling alcohol. At the moment, pub landlords are the ones who control (in most cases!) the sale of alcohol on their premises, but a lot of the alcohol related problems are not caused by pub customers. I think the simplest answer is to restrict the sale of alcohol from supermarkets. I think there should be much tougher tests in order to obtain a license to sell alcohol and anyone selling it should have a licence. The minimum age should also raised to 21. Draconion measures maybe, but there needs to be some responsibility by those selling alcohol. At the moment, pub landlords are the ones who control (in most cases!) the sale of alcohol on their premises, but a lot of the alcohol related problems are not caused by pub customers.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2767 Philtheone Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:52:38 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2767 To be honest I've never really been bothered by noisy drunks roaming the streets, but I accept it does happen. It's probably less of an evil than we're led to believe, though. You're right about the UK having a depressed population, but should that perhaps be oppressed? After all, the Government seems intent on living our lives for us and the mainstream are seemingly doing battle on who can be the biggest nanny! In answer to the last question, well, I'm going to the cinema later and I wont be drinking so that's one thing! Depends on your definition of affordable I suppose. To be honest I’ve never really been bothered by noisy drunks roaming the streets, but I accept it does happen. It’s probably less of an evil than we’re led to believe, though.

You’re right about the UK having a depressed population, but should that perhaps be oppressed? After all, the Government seems intent on living our lives for us and the mainstream are seemingly doing battle on who can be the biggest nanny!

In answer to the last question, well, I’m going to the cinema later and I wont be drinking so that’s one thing! Depends on your definition of affordable I suppose.

]]> By: Philtheone http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2766 Philtheone Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:47:53 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2766 I enjoyed that cougars video, cracked up laughing! I enjoyed that cougars video, cracked up laughing!

]]> By: Frustrated http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2765 Frustrated Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:35:02 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2765 The suggestions are complete crap. I rarely drink (and never get drunk) and even I've taken advantage of two for one drinks at happy hour (shared with a friend or family). The licensing hours need cutting back. This will stop drunks roaming the streets in the early hours waking everyone up. It won't for one minute stop people getting drunk though. If you look at the countries with the worst drink problems they're always ones which have a depressed resident population - Russia and Poland being prime examples. The UK's obviously in there because we're becoming a poor nation - maybe not on paper with our wage levels but when you take living costs off, we're probably about level with these countries. What would drive drinking down most in my personal opinion, is to have more entertainment at affordable price levels, more "socialising without drinkin"g opportunities of any kind so you can have a good night out without being in a pub or club. Unless you're into floodlit sports or staying at home as a couch potato, what is there to do? The suggestions are complete crap. I rarely drink (and never get drunk) and even I’ve taken advantage of two for one drinks at happy hour (shared with a friend or family).
The licensing hours need cutting back. This will stop drunks roaming the streets in the early hours waking everyone up. It won’t for one minute stop people getting drunk though.
If you look at the countries with the worst drink problems they’re always ones which have a depressed resident population – Russia and Poland being prime examples. The UK’s obviously in there because we’re becoming a poor nation – maybe not on paper with our wage levels but when you take living costs off, we’re probably about level with these countries. What would drive drinking down most in my personal opinion, is to have more entertainment at affordable price levels, more “socialising without drinkin”g opportunities of any kind so you can have a good night out without being in a pub or club. Unless you’re into floodlit sports or staying at home as a couch potato, what is there to do?

]]> By: Not Quite Hayek http://philtheone.com/2010/01/binge-drinking-voters-get-2-for-1-booze-ban/#comment-2764 Not Quite Hayek Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:29:57 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=1308#comment-2764 If you like DK, you might also enjoy Mr. Eugenides - http://mreugenides.blogspot.com/ If you like DK, you might also enjoy Mr. Eugenides – http://mreugenides.blogspot.com/

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