Election campaigns are starting to roll now, and Ron Bell’s already managed to wangle over £500 in donations towards his campaign goal of £2000.
Clearly his upbeat campaign that he, “came into politics not to be a Politician,” and the accompanying video whipped up a veritable frenzy of passion amongst his Blackpool South contingent. He still needs a 9% swing which wont be at all easy, and I’m still left wondering why his campaign target isn’t £10,000.
Paul Maynard on the other hand has only managed to pick up a fiver towards his own target of £1500. Maybe that’s because he wont need it against Joan Humble!
Rumour has it that another Blackpool South contender, Hamish Howitt, is backed by anonymous commercial interests. Can’t think why that would be, can you?
And finally it seems the Lib Dems and Labour have teamed up to make Ron sound like an idiot. Or is Ron really a Liberal Democrat? Have a listen.
Tags: conservatives, donations, elections
Hamish Howitt is not going to win, he could invest the maximum legal amount in his campaign (whatever the maximum is?) but he is not getting Blackpool South. I am the first person to say Blackpool South needs a change from Marsden but not a muppet like Howitt who is campaigning on one silly little issue. I vote for an MP based on conviction, policies and what they offer Blackpool South, so that rules out Marsden and Howitt right away. Unfortunately the local UKIP ranks have rubber-stamped his selection but there is still considerable outrage from other members.
have UKIP REALLY selected Hamarse Howtit?
Yes unfortunately, it was in the Gasjet today, not on the website (for obvious reasons!!!) he has been given the green-light as candidate for Blackpool South, some members have reacted with outrage. Bill Whitehead who I believe is the Wyre Chairman I think was not impressed.
Bill bill bill.. you never emailed me back bill..
Thats a very bad decision, if not insane.There must be a dodgy dealing there, as they say, theres no smoke without fire, lol
A very apt comment there, if anything I think his selection will put people off voting UKIP, they are off the radar for me as long as Howitt is candidate. If he honestly thinks he going to win he is having a laugh. The Haltemprice and Howden and Glasgow East by-elections were perfect proof of how he is not as popular and supported as he thinks he is. I would like to hear what Mr Whitehead has to say on the matter.
to:- True Blackpudlian & Harold Ernest Gokdogan
The local UKIP members have not selected Hamish Howitt he was forced upon them without any democratic selection process whatsoever by the MEP Paul Nuttall and Fred McGlade the ukip Regional Organiser both heavy smokers.
A vote of no confidence was taken at a branch meeting in both Hamish Howitt and Dr.Fred McGlade (an open university title) he could not even do that the straight way.
Thank you very much for that information thebruiser. I can’t say I am surprised with that though, it sounds totally undemocratic and if I was a UKIP member I would have resigned by now if such things were happening.
Cheers Bruiser!
I got an email from paul regarding the issues I mentioned.
That’s what I like about Paul Maynard he takes the time to reply personally to emails. He will hopefully make a very good MP for Blackpool North and Cleveleys. What exactly did he say?
Absolutely TB, he is a gentleman and will take time out to listen and talk with people.
My letter:
Concerning electrification:
I doubt it will happen because when DC gets in, he will slash the budget.This area has been abandoned (in terms of infrastructure investment) by both tory and labour governments, both of whom I will no longer, on principle, vote for ever gain, unless convinced otherwise.I will be voting BNP.
What is of equal importance,is the reopening of the Fleetwood line and sorting out of the A585.We have a conservative council who are obsessed with building houses in Wyre with the full knowledge that the A585 is over capacity.They have a planner (Gary Payne) who has demonstrated a flagrant disregard for public opinion, along with an unhealthy relationship with developers;who has produced an horrendously flawed Area Action Plan which will totally gridlock the area.Its bad enough having a useless government and Highways Agency/LCC but having a council who is determined to aggravate the existing problem is untenable by any measure and is surely an indication of unfettered madness.
“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad”
His reply(Thanks Paul):
Dear Mr Gokdogan,
Thank you for your email. The A585 is indeed the crucial element of the transport infrastructure for the northern part of the constituency – I sit in queues on it myself many a time. I note your comments, and I can assure you that prioritising the A585 will be one of my ‘early projects’ if fortunate enough to be elected. I believe the commitment to reviewing national ports policy, together with ancillary infrastructure including road and rail will give further opportunity for reconsideration of the current situation at higher levels than local government.
Needless to say, I do not agree with you that voting BNP (or any other Party than the Conservatives) is the way to progress the A585. It will only ensure the re-election of a Labour Government that has failed adequately to deal with the situation hitherto.
Kind regards,
Paul Maynard
Conservative Parliamentary Candidate
Blackpool North & Cleveleys
Oi! Check your email, you could have posted that as an article (if you wanted) instead of hijacking my nice thread
lol, more articles will follow Sir, fear ye not!
Well he hasnt convinced me to vote for him.
Plus points.
He replied promptly and politely.
He identified the main issue for the local economy, the A585.
Negatives.
He avoided the antics of WBC, especially those of Herr Payne,but if elected he now knows the score!
He avoided my point about slashing budgets, reckoned to be as much as 20%.
The whole area has been abandoned by both tory and labour governments for the last 30 years.
It is a conservative council that is increasing pressure on a road that is already “over capacity”, 3 consultants state this WITHOUT equivocation.
It was a conservative council that messed about in 1994 when the replacement was on offer; and lsot the replacement.It was a conservative council who a few years back were offered the yellow route but pushed for the blue route which was contrary to goverment policy which stated no more junctions on the motorway, now the blue route wont be available for at least 20 years.
well done (clap clap) to that wanker Russell Foreskin, you lost us a road!
This is in the main, a conservative FUCK UP.
The BNP would reduce foreign aid, unlike the tweedledum/tweedledee tory/lab parties who have ringfenced it!
The saving(s) could easily (in theory) be spent on the Fylde with spectacular results for our transport system, yes OUR money for US!
So why the fuck would would I vote for 2 CUNT parties who:
1) created this problem,
2) are intensifying it; and
3) have dubious and vague plans/solutions to resolve it, given their policies which are based upon slashing the transport budgets.
Fuck these cunt parties,just 2 flies sat on the same piece of festering shite,bickering at each other, but neither willing to acknowledge that they are in essence and nature ,virtually identical and indescernable from one another.
Sorry Paul, nice try!
Some people have short memories. Last time when labour took over from the two faced, spin doctor, conservatives, there were more than 3 million unemployed, the bank rate was above 15%, they were selling off our silver etc.etc. So lets not hear how they can do better, they have already proved they cannot do so.
You can see from the reproduced letter from Paul Maynard, the Conservative Parliamentary Candidate
Blackpool North & Cleveleys, that he promises nowt, throws in a red herring or two and talks meaningless gobbledegook and double talk, must be some mate of Hamish Howitt!!!
lol fair points,indeed I dont see how he can sort out the A585;its not a new issue, its being going for years and when the replacement was put forward in 1994, we hada conservative government.
methinks theres isnt much to Paul to be honest, nice guy but hes gonna have to start coming out with some serious substance! I think so far, hes a lightweight but I want to be proven wrong.For starters he could start to censure his conservative friends in WBC, who are doing everything possible to fuck up our already overloaded roads in Wyre.
I don’t have a short memory I move on from the past, in the last 13 years Labour have done loads of damage. I don’t give a toss what the last Government did, I look at the present and the future. Liebour have done nothing but lie and decieve the country for 13 years, the NHS and education are in a sorry state, stealth taxes galore, massive public debt by reckless spending, PCSOs, quangos and the list goes on….
When Labour took over in 1997 they also inherited a very strong economy and wrecked it with their reckless squandering.
I don’t believe any promises from Labour, they cannot be trusted. Very good point about Hamish though
Its true when it comes to spending I get the impression Zanulabour spend more, but get less in return.The tories spend less but are more efficient with it.
Labour is waste, waste, waste!
look at the millenium dome,imagine if a fraction of that had been spent on OUR transport infrastructure????!!!
This is what makes my blood boil with the zanulabour twats,the money isnt there to invest, but its always there to waste!
Is that fair? I mean, Labour’s hardly been a stunning example of governance. And they sold all our gold at the lowest point. What would be better?
Look at the figures out today, 21.2% of the population that are not in work and are not looking for work as well as about 2.5million unemployed and looking for work and the only reason it’s not more is because the Government keep employing people.
The truth is he would be as useless as an MP as he seems to be as a candidate. A major part of the selection process involves training in staying awake long enough to put their hands up to vote with the rest of the sheep on command. have you ever thought what most MPs really do not a lot other than what they are told by the party whips.
I doubt if Mr.Paul Maynard realises that it is the LCC that mainly controls what happens to the roads not the MPs, or that the rail track is a private company thanks to the conservatives so he won’t have a lot of influence there I guess.
UKs road planners have done to the road what cholesterol does for our hearts
I agree there, like Gordon Marsden and Joan Humble they always obey the party orders, they don’t know the meaning of the word ‘rebellion’, they will vote against public interest for the sake of the party. The best way to go would be to have independent MPs.
splendid words of wisdom! lol
The truth is he would be as useless as an MP as he seems to be as a candidate. A major part of the selection process involves training in staying awake long enough to put their hands up to vote with the rest of the sheep on command. have you ever thought what most MPs really do not a lot other than what they are told by the party whips.
I doubt if Mr.Paul Maynard realises that it is the LCC that mainly controls what happens to the roads not the MPs, or that the rail track is a private company thanks to the conservatives so he won’t have a lot of influence there I guess.
UKs road planners have done to the road system what Cholesterol does for our hearts.
Paul Maynard will be an excellent MP because he will bring the people together in Blackpool who will make a difference.
He really knows his stuff about Open Access Rail where as I doubt Joan Humble would know what it meant if she fell over it.
to:- Zim Flyer
To be that naive you must be very young or thick, does your mum know you are up this late?
If you are a conservative its not who you know or what you may know, its just a matter of putting your hand up when told to.
Heres a tip for you, if you watch the conservatives vote you can tell the ones with consciences by watching there heads go down in shame, but a conscience is not the same as having the bottle to vote against the whip.
Neither young nor thick.
I have had the pleasure of meeting Paul Maynard and rather than be blinded by an obsession towards the political party he represents I judge him on the quality of man that he is.
He is fair, he is energetic and I repeat again he is the best man to unite the different people and groups who care and love Blackpool. Only through such groups uniting do we stand a chance of bringing back the spirit of John Bickerstaffe in the continued effort to regenerate Blackpool.
OK lets start one “people not politics”
It should not matter what the independents politics are as long as the vote with their conscience and the public interest.
No whips, no team orders, just a group working together for the common interest.
that is a serious comment and suggestion
Well to be fair to apportioning blame here:
National government has dictated more houses must be built and local authorities have little defence when house builders buy large swaves of land and apply to build on it. If they don’t pass it (with some s106 agreements to get something back for the taxpayers) then it goes to the National Inspector and usually they get even less back. Having said that I think they should oppose any inappropriate development on principle that they are supposed to be the local peoples’ council, not just a different division of central government.
The County Council will be responsible for road building – and they’ll probably advocate that increase in housing with a s106 to fund it at least in part.
The Bruiser is right in my opinion that MPs tend to vote on whips and are not much use in themselves. However I’d extend that to more or less every politican now since Labour introduce the cabinet system and multiple quangos.
If we want to start saying what party we should vote for, I don’t think we should consider voting anything but Conservative in the general election. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think “Dave” is a useless twat that will mess the country up. He just might mess it up less than Gordon Brown.
I voted BNP at the European elections for reasons all regulars will know.
County Council I voted Lib Dem – I was tempted by UKIP or another BNP protest vote that wouldn’t have got in – but I had to admit that the Lib Dem candidate has the most chance of all the non-tories of getting in and my desire to get rid of our local Conservatives who aren’t worthy of the title is greater than anything else.
At local level there are usually 3 places and 4 standing. And 3 of the 4 standing are Conservatives and the 4th is a completely useless tosser who thinks he’s God’s gift to planning, under the “Ratepayers” logo. So if someone wants to stand in Fairhaven ward in Fylde the electorate are desperate to vote for you. I will contact some of the other parties and try to get them to get a few candidates up next time.
to:- Harold Ernest Gokdogan
Thank you for your kind comments sir.
to:-Frustrated
There will be someone you can vote for in Fairhaven will you help canvas and/or distribute leaflets?
So what do you guys thin about starting a totally independent group ? for Blackpool and Fylde.
Fylde already has the Ratepayers alliance, but is actually possible to achieve full independence, and would you achieve anything by doing so?
I think independent councillors can be quite good and can mobilize locals. Independent MPs are somewhat pointless unless there’s a massive number of them, but then how would they be independent?
MPs are generally anonymous unless they’re crawling for votes after being caught with their hands in the till.
I will be voting BNP/UKIP/EDs, no mainstrream party again.
Frustrated the problem in Wyre is that Gary “Albert Speer” Payne doesnt like using the 106 provision for road improvements, he has a history of this.I spoke to a formet LCC coucillor who was very critical of his lack of use of the s106.Tha bastard Payne is the developers planner of choice, he has received public praise from the manager of NPL, Scott Carswell (funny surname I know).
Wait till that cunt Payne appears at the next strategic forum meeting,Harold will be there to verbally point out his failings! IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.
Bruiser your comments are excellent Sir.
A bit of good news tonight, unfairly and wrongly (as far as I am concerned) jailed Munir Hussain was freed today and his sentence reduced and suspended, too little too late I think though. He never should have been jailed to begin with and he should have been acquited. What I find so laughable though is that he was jailed because he gave the assailant ‘brain damage’ yet his attacker has gone on to commit further offences since violently robbing Mr Hussain and his family.
horay that is good news TB, now lets have the incoming Tory goverment change the laws!
Hi Phil, would just like to say what a wonderful site this is. It has become my daily tonic to read the postings on here, can’t say I agree with all the comments, but that’s free speech. For the past month or two I haven’t seen any postings that I have felt a need to comment on, but this Hamish and UKIP situation has got to a point where I feel the need to say something. I totally agree with what the bruiser has to say about Hamish and the local UKIP membership, I have couple of close friends who are members of UKIP and verify that Hamish has been forced upon the local members by the MEP Paul Nuttall and the regional organizer Fred Mc Glade. Both in my opinion total arseholes along with Hamish. Why the gasjet find the loser newsworthy, I can’t imagine. I will this year be voting BNP instead of UKIP. I would also agree with the suggestion for local politics to be independent and free from all the restrictions imposed by mainstream parties and if there is anybody out there with the mindset to do this, I would be right behind them.
Hi skeet, another BNP voter like me, interesting.
Hi skeet, thanks for the compliments and welcome!
I have no idea why this rogue gets so much exposure in the Gasjet, but so be it. He’s always got that stupid jumper on as well.
Local politics needs a kick up the arse which is why we need to get petitions done for the elected mayor campaign.
At least this way there will be a single, fully empowered and fully responsible figurehead, no matter what political allegiances they have.
Excellent comment skeet, I agree completely about that muppet Howitt. I don’t even believe he believes in UKIP’s policies, he has just jumped on the bandwagon because they have a pledge to amend the smoking ban which I don’t support as I am a big supporter of the ban. I do support most of UKIP’s other policies but that one is a big bugbear for me. I am getting very tempted to write to the Gazette or even Johnston Press and complain about all the publicity this idiot is getting because I am fed up of reading about him.
Harold Ernest Gokdogan
January 20, 2010 at 10:18 pm
I will be voting BNP/UKIP/EDs, no mainstrream party again.
Frustrated the problem in Wyre is ….
I wouldn’t disagree with why you don’t want to vote for a mainstream party. But I think tactical voting is essential to get the worst lot of the time out and that voting for non mainstreams in a general election (and only general elections) merely lets other people say which of the mainstream lots get in. I know if we all voted for a decent person then a mainstream candidate wouldn’t need to be elected – but there are far too many people that will only ever vote mainstream to make it a reality – hence the crap national politicians and policies that we see.
And I’ll see who wants to stand in Fairhaven ward next time and I hope we can get some sort of consensus on 3 real alternatives standing. And of course I’d leaflet drop or whatever for someone I thought would either make a difference or at least try to make a difference within the current anti-democractic setup.
Hi Frustrated.
Who would you like to see stand there in Fairhaven?
I understand Frustrated but voting for any mainstream politician is a no go.Why?
Because the whole politcal scene needs a FUNDAMENTAL change and thst means BNP/UKIP/ED mps,then and only then, will the mainstream realise that they have taken the piss for too long, and its good for democracy to have various views instead of the 3 in 1 scum we have now.
Agreed!!
People Not Politics I say, vote for the man/women not the political party, sack/shoot/get rid of the Whitehall mandarins too.