Comments on: Nimby uproar as gas proposal remains in pipeline

By: Philtheone

Philtheone — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:26:48 +0000

I wish.

The only negative is the NIMBY argument. That’s why there’s so much “for”.

The Health and Safety Executive has said its safe, therefore it’s safe. If you trust them on everything else, why not trust them on this? What’s so special about this project that is inherently dangerous?

By: Seagull

Seagull — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:01:00 +0000

Given that there are far more safe storage proposals around the UK i.e. empty oil caverns, and that you are saying so much “for” the gas proposals – I would say that Dennis Volter and Canatxx have paid you money and fed you only their side of the issue – like they have so many other people! Been there, done that!

By: Philtheone

Philtheone — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:54:15 +0000

That’s where you’re wrong.

If there gas facilities had a problem with explosions, one we would be hearing about it and two these underground storage systems would be banned.

As it happens, there are a few of these knocking around the UK and around the world.

Next you’ll be telling me you won’t go to a petrol station because there are tens of thousands of litres of petrol under it, but in reality you probably live near several and visit one every few days.

You probably drive a car carrying 60 litres of highly flammable liquid or even gas that could – if there was any truth supporting the hysteria – blow up any time.

Given that you’re in far closer proximity to other flammable substances for most of your life, what’s so significant about this gas storage that makes it more dangerous than the real world examples I have given?

By: Seagull

Seagull — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:01:08 +0000

“Okay first point is that nobody lives near it.”

There are thousands of people living within three miles of the proposed storage Philtheone. So I don’t hink you know very much about this. YOU’d be a NIMBY if you lived that close to 1.2 million tonnes of gas!

By: ionian5

ionian5 — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:10:34 +0000

It is good to see continued support for this project. I live locally and I am satisfied that this project, that is so desperately required, is safe. So is the HSE. This type of fast response storage differs from the long term type of storage offered by depleted oil & gas fields. It is this type that is required for instant response at times of peak demand.

By: Harold Ernest Gokdogan

Harold Ernest Gokdogan — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:10:43 +0000

Gruntshaw, now theres another cunt!

By: True Blackpudlian

True Blackpudlian — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:58:57 +0000

Well said I have seen the artist’s impression and it looks great. Very good point about the view. Personally when I go to Fleetwood I think there are better places than the pier to get views of Morecambe Bay anyway like actually going on the beach. I think Gruntshaw just wants something to moan about.

By: Harold Ernest Gokdogan

Harold Ernest Gokdogan — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:40:25 +0000

That new fleetwood council aint worth its weight in dehydrated fly shit,another layer of wank useless councillors.

By: Frustrated

Frustrated — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:24:54 +0000

Modern Art Deco sounds great and would certainly fit into the historical architecture of the area – if he can get enough people to stay to make it stay in business and it doesn’t become a derelict eyesore of some kind 10 years down the line. You don’t have a planning right to a view – people really do need to learn that. And if it’s still a reasonably pleasant view like an Art Deco hotel they should count themselves very lucky.

By: True Blackpudlian

True Blackpudlian — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:34:55 +0000

I see the Fleetwood NIMBY brigade are trying to halt progress again. Its not up on the website but in today’s Gazette there is a story about Mike Simmons (aka Joey Blower) who has his own property development company and his exciting, brilliant looking plans for the old Fleetwood Pier site. He plans a modern Art-Deco hotel with bars and restaurants to coincide with other Fleetwood regeneration projects. But the NIMBYs are objecting again. Fleetwood is a nice place I like going up there on my bike but it is a town direly in need of some proper regeneration and this plan is the best they are going to get. Tom Norton the local ‘town action something or other’ moans ‘this area was always earmarked for leisure for the kids’. Move with the times man the pier is gone and noone wants to rebuild it but a developer has the vision and capital to bring something exciting and you block it. Then local Labour mouthpiece Clive Gruntshaw said ‘A hotel will block the view of Morecambe Bay’. I don’t understand this ludicrous statement. There is miles of seafront in Fleetwood to admire the views of Morecambe Bay the old pier site is only a small area and what view was there when the pier was there because you couldn’t go to the end of the pier even when it still stood. I strongly hope Wyre Council approve these plans because they are vital and progressive for Fleetwood. Or would the NIMBYs rather the site just remained derelict?