Feb 112010
I’ve heard on the rumour mill that there might be a new Blackpool, Fylde and Wyre political party in the offing.
I don’t know whether it’s disillusioned LibLabCon members reeling after consecutive disastrous councils or a backlash to the authoritarian UKIP hierarchy, however I wouldn’t be half surprised if it was the latter given the reported state of the party.
Anyone heard anything about it?
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Not heard a thing, but I am intrigued, the thing is I agree with a lot of what UKIP stands for but I can’t back a party which opposes the smoking ban and I will never ever give that muppet Hamish Howitt my vote. But if there is a new local party I would be interested. Please post any information if anyone has any.
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Just to add, the only trouble is with voting for any minority party is that there is the very serious risk of Labour staying in. I may be a Conservative voter but I will happily admit when I disagree with the party. I am not a blindly loyal sheep like most Labour supporters. We all know Labour supporters will vote Labour come hell or high water, rain snow or shine and they never think about who they vote for. In some areas of the country Leigh (nr Wigan) for example the smug, arrogant useless Health Secretary Andy Burnham has an obscene majority of 18,000!!! This is because the easily-led Labour voters will vote for a statue of their beloved Margaret Thatcher if it carried a red rosette.
Anyhow my point is it is great to have an alternative party to vote for but ‘rebelling’ to a fringe party carries the risk of Labour staying in.
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Yeh, I think the best option for any “Blackpool First” Party should be to campaign at a local level and prove itself at council level and build up it’s support base.
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That would be good, get the party to develop an established support base from local level and then aim for Parliament. Like I say the biggest problem is most Labour supporters don’t think about who they vote for, they just see Labour and put the X on the spot. They sling any other parties material straight in the bin saying ‘Its in my blood to vote Labour’. I may be a solid Conservative supporter but I do view what the other parties have to offer. But at the moment the choices in Blackpool are pretty grim. A useless Labour MP who doesn’t even have any links with the town, a strong local Conservative PPC but whose reputation has been tainted severely, a local pro-smoking muppet fighting the election for nothing more than his personal agenda.
Richard Taylor MP (Wyre Forest) a retired gynaecologist come MP is a fine example of how an indepedent candidate can make a difference. He fought the election on a very worthy cause to save his local hospital but from what I hear offers a comprehensive range of other policies unlike Hamish who is a one-issue joke.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to see a local ‘Blackpool First’ party get into Parliament but as long as Labour supporters will blindly follow the pied piper, its not going to happen.
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A few of us are ready, but you all appear impossible to lead, all talk and no action.
And no I do not want to lead you.
By the way Conservative voters are much more loyal than Labour, and more willing to vote for the rossettte rather than the candidate.
There are two totally useless Tories Cllrs near me.
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What makes you more ready than anyone else, and upon what basis are “we” (whoever we are) impossible to lead?
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Good question Phil, it hardly seems the right attitude when you are starting a political party to then start criticising potential supporters.
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That’s because conservatives are like sheep in that they always follow one and other mindlessly a bit like lemmings.
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I wouldn’t say any other mainstream party followers were any different.
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That wouldn’t be the po faced puppet and rumplestiltskin would it.
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So what does Blackpool First Alliance stand for (don’t say Blackpool)?
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Is this Blackpool First Alliance a properly registered political party or what?
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It’s a disgruntled Liberal Democrat
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I disagree with that comment, I think Labour supporters are the biggest sheep. Just look at the blinkered comments from ‘cardy’ ‘frustrated of blackpool’ and ‘Born and bread Blackpool lad’ to see what I mean. They blame everything on the Tories and NEVER EVER accept when Labour is wrong. I will happily criticise Conservatives when I disagree with something. Also I read an article about some union scumbag who is such a socialist twat he actually said when Margaret Thatcher was in hospital ‘I wouldn’t be disappointed if she never came out’. I think that is a vile and disgusting comment. Its like I am no big fan of Marsden and Hamish Howitt, but I would never wish them dead. I just want them to be publicly humiliated, I would make such a vile and callous remark and most worringly this guy is standing for Parliament for Labour in one of the safest seats in the country. And we all know the Labour sheep in Northumberland will elect this vile, horrid nasty man without a thought.
Anyhow I have had my rant, I am interested in hearing about what the Blackpool First Alliance would have to offer. I have ruled out BNP, UKIP and Labour for my vote but anyone else is in with a chance.
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BAA BAA BAA keep them baaastard Tories out
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Get Liebour OUT more like, they have done 13 years of damage to our once great country. LABOUR OUT 2010!!!!! 13 years of lies, spin, empty promises and reckless squandering!!!! The country needs change!!!
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Hi True Blackpudlian.
My comment were aimed at Blackpool First Alliance comment.
I completely agree with you that all the major parties are the same sheep like ribbish.
hopefully this new party will be different.
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I hope so too, like I say I would love to see a proper local Blackpool party. The only trouble is like a very very valid point Zim Flyer made is. By jumping straight in the deep end and tackling the general election all they could do is split the non-Labour vote and help Marsden cling on (perish the thought!). If the party starts out by contesting by-elections and the 2011 Council Elections it will get their name around and build up a support base for the next GE. If I liked what I saw I would definitely consider them worth a shot but for this GE I plan to vote tactically more than anything to get Marsden/Labour out.
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What are Blackpool First Alliance policies, how are they going to achive these policies and who is leading them?
I think before we start saying what a very good party thet are perhaps we should no more about them.
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I agree.
I don’t think BFA is the party that will be announcing itself within the next week or two, though. Although I could be wrong.
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Blackpool First Alliance will not be getting involved in the GE this time around as far as I am aware. I don’t think there will be any current Labour or Lib Dem Councillors in the new group. However, The Tory party across the Fylde is split into about a dozen factions so anything is possible with them! Ukip are the obvious choice as their party has been snatched away from them.
Blackpool First Alliance may very well end up fielding a load of candidates at the next local elections but unless the opposition (ie anything but Lab/Con) speak to each other about where they are targeting their efforts there will be little or no difference in the Town Hall.
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troobloo,
You seem to be aware of the intentions of Blackpool First, so would you please tell me if they are a Registered Political Party with the electoral commission?
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I don’t think they are currently registered. They have been inactive for quite a few years but attempts to revive them are being made.
To be honest, most of the people of Blackpool want the same thing, it’s Party Politics that prevent us achieving those things. However, the system that is currently place requires there to be a group or “party” to run the town. That group could just as easily include members of other groups or parties.
An elected Mayor is still the way forward for anyone wanting to see real change in the Town Hall.
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Hi Phil
Great site for exchange of views especially on local politics.
First time blog.
This news of a new political party being formed interest me but to have real impact it really needs to be registered with the electoral commission, otherwise its just a group of people who talk about challenging the corupt system which we have now ,with no action just talk.
The only advice i would give is forget about fielding candidates in the General Election concentrate on local Elections first as they say you ‘ve got to be able to walk before you can run.
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Hi Petrer.
I understand that is exactly what is happening and the registration is with the electoral commission awaiting its approval.
The principle people involved probably can run ok, however the party following is not yet sufficient to do much more than crawl YET! without supporters you can do next to nothing.
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Hi Petrer, I totally agree ‘Don’t run before you can walk’. Like I say I would love to see a proper local party but the trouble with fighting a general election from the word GO is that they would get trounced by all the major parties. A fine example of a new candidate who made some big waves is Dr Richard Taylor in Wyre Forest. The Lib Dems did not field a candidate so the runway was clear for Dr Taylor and he won on a campaign to save his local hospital but since then he has become a breath of fresh air from the major parties with some comprehensive policies.
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The only advantage with being registered with the electoral commission is that you can have the name of the party on the ballot paper.
Without being registered, one can still stand, even under the banner of a political party or whatever name you want, but on the ballot paper you would down as an independent.
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There are several adjantages to being registered.
(1) Registration has the advantage of adding considerable credibility to a party rather than just being a group of do-gooders with no tangible commitment.
(2) It makes thing considerably easier with the electoral registration people at the council, voters lists etc.
(3) Generally voters vote for a party rather than an individual so the registered motifs and names help.
(4) The media take more notice of parties that independents.
(5) There are also advantages as regards to fund collecting and donations.
(6) People are more inclined to support a party than an individual.
These are just a few of the advantages of being a formally recognised party
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I still refer to what I said previously, You can still be a formally recognised party, you do everything that other parties do but you can’t have your name or logo on the ballot paper. I’m not saying that isn’t important! It is, but it isn’t the be all and end all. The important thing is to establish a presence.
What the Blackpool First Alliance want to is be an umbrella organisation, an alliance, of Independents, other parties, new parties etc…. all sharing a few important and distinctive aims.
I’m not sure what those aims are yet cos I’m not involved in the BFA.
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It sounds a bit like a localised version of the new party.
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“all sharing a few important and distinctive aims.
I’m not sure what those aims are yet cos I’m not involved in the BFA.”
I wish you did troobloo because its pointless talking about this new party until someone tells us what they are and how they are going to achieve them.
Blackpool First Alliance keeps coming on and saying how he trying to give us leadership does he expect us to follow blindly?
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I believe the New party will have to have stated aims from day one, and unlike BFA a registered and published constitution.
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Does this constitution include tea breaks,
if so its for me.
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They may not let dogs in K9
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Hi petrer, thanks for the comment. I’m nothing to do with any political party although I do communicate with representatives of various factions. The news of this party is just that; I myself am waiting for more info on it.
However as Bruiser has said, it is as far as I know being registered with the Electoral Commission and will obviously have to undergo a process of gaining support for a number of years. If I receive information on this new party then I’ll get it on here ASAP and who knows I might end up supporting them!
As for BFA I know little about it other than the mastermind is a former Liberal Democrat PPC who comes on here and slags me and other posters off from time to time. I didnt know it was a legitimate party.
Clearly though, there isnt room for loads of localised parties and this prospective party that will hopefully unveil itself to me this week encompasses more of an area than just Blackpool…
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It appears to me there are a few half baked ideas floating around, the formation of one or maybe two Independant parties on the Fylde.
What is needed is less clap trap and more positive action,don’nt forget the next local elections are only 15 months away which is no time at all for a new party to get organised to make any in roads locally,after all there are many brain dead councillors who keep getting re elected time after time for just following the party line,many of whom are unable to think for themselves.
I’m not convinced there is any mileage in Blackpool first alliance as troobloo states he sees it as an umbrella organisation for other parties,nice idea but just maybe unworkable in practice,however,if there is a new party which is registered with the electorol commission i could take it seriously as long as they can come up with sensible policies that re-connect with the voting public, something our current politicians are unable to do in both local and national politics today.
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Well said Petrer are you looking for a job? and going to join this new party.
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Bruiser I like your comments if you join i will, let me know,i’m interested anyone else for joining
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Count me in
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whats this party called?
If its anti WBC then thats ok by me!
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