The £250k Objection
There is a lot of hoo ha at the moment over Pretend City’s Tithebarn Project, but seeing as the Gasjet is censoring me again by not restoring my comments I thought I would write an article.
Now anyone on here who knows me knows I can’t stand that slumtown at the East End of the M55 and I was absolutely fuming when Tithebarn was first announced. It is yet another case of all for Preston and stuff everyone else.
Towns like Blackpool, Blackburn, Burnley, Lancaster and more have suffered neglect for too long at the expense of Preston. Possibly because the jobsworth NWDA chief Steve Broomhead lives in Preston which is why the ’3rd city of the North West’ (Can’t say that without my sides splitting) always gets the attention.
Preston has had billions pumped into it in recent years their university UCLAN (where I attended myself) has had billions and billions turning it into the great institution it is now. Look at Blackpool in contrast; the Labour Government lost the funding for our college revamp and we get another kick in the teeth.
Anyway back to the point. I never ever shop in Preston, personally I don’t see the attraction, it is just a soulless clone town, give me Manchester or Liverpool anyday. But in my aspirations for Blackpool I want better shops, restaurants, leisure provision etc I don’t want Preston getting it all which is basically what Tithebarn is.
But as Zim Flyer has very rightly said before I don’t see the possibility of this unrealistic overambitious project happening anyway. I think it is total joke; I mean there is no market for high class shops/restaurants in Preston it is a working class market town. I hope it never does happen.
I am sick of people from Preston saying we are ‘jealous’. I am not jealous of that dump I simply want a fair deal not just for Blackpool but for the whole of Lancashire. Preston getting a massive oversized development like this benefits a small proportion of Preston and noone else. I completely support the objections by Blackpool Council and the other 5 neighbouring councils.
Another level on which I protest this development is the ludicrous plan to demolish Preston Bus Station. It is about the only thing Preston has of any note to people outside Lancashire and they want to demolish it. It is a perfectly functional, fit for purpose facility and Preston’s toffee-nosed top brass completely disregard its architectural uniqueness (some Preston lacks massively).
The big issue to many people is the cost of £250k to fight the public enquiry That is a lot of money I will agree but there is much worse things it could be spent on like paying the grossly overinflated salaries of Weaver and co. I admit Peter Callow does have a habit of being out of touch on some things sometimes, but I feel personally he is right on this one and I back the objection out of loyalty to Blackpool and wider Lancashire. I am not letting Preston steal the thunder of everyone else with this stupid project. It is high time Blackpool got some proper investment and this will do us no favours. Tithebarn must be stopped.
For the record as negative as this post has been I don’t hate Preston (completely!) and I am not opposed to regeneration in Preston. But I am opposed to a massive unrealistic project like this which will detriment all other Lancashire towns just to boost Pretend City’s massive ego thinking they are Manchester and Liverpool. Why Preston ever even got city status is beyond me, it is just a dive of a town it has nothing unique or characteristic. Blackpool should be a city NOT Preston.
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Would you be saying all of this if something like Tithebarn was happening in Blackpool?
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As ever, I absolutely cannot agree with you on this, TB.
I appreciate your championing of Blackpool, but it takes a different tone when we try to spoil things for other people.
Blackpool needs to play to its own strengths (whatever they may be) and potential. Blackpool is Blackpool and Preston is Preston – they will always be different places.
What does it say about our suitability as a suitable regional team player, when we’re tripping up and undermining those on the same side?
What message does it send to investors about how well we can play with the other kids?
How much does it tell people about the time we spend concentrating on our own future, rather than other places?
It is entirely in Blackpool’s interests to see a strong and growing Preston.
Preston has – for a long time – been the centre of the county. It’s the county’s administrative ‘capital’ and is more or less at the cross roads of major transport links. Blackpool is not and never will be.
This is a good opportunity for Blackpool to ride on Preston’s back – but the likes of Peter Callow only see it as an opportunity to show us up as a bunch of backwards yokels stuck in the 1950s. Blackpool will not lose anything because of Tithebarn. Blackpool Council has been unable to offer any credible evidence to substantiate its whining.
We need to grow up, stop spoiling it for everyone else and start playing ball. There are far, far more important things going on in our own back yard.
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Agreed John, I`m sure we are all sick to death of TBs nonsensicle rants.
Perhaps he should considder becoming a DJ in Benidorm, you know, the sort of place where they play the same old rotten record over & over again
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Please only speak for yourself and keep criticism constructive otherwise its no better then childish name calling. As for the name used via posting. Its no hardship to “out” ppl that hide behind other handles when being penises.
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Reply to Dolly the sheep there not johns post ofc.
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Thanks boney, boney is right Dolly the Sheep stop with this childish namecalling or go away. My comments are not nonsensical I have a right to an opinion.
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I couldn’t have put it better
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Don’t really get the Preston bashing thing. Wherever it was built would there not be the same crying? I don’t really get the massive ego of Preston thing ether. How can a city have an ego? Do ya mean the members of its council?
Blackpool could be said to “have an ego” with the “Las Vegas of the north” bollocks.
There must be SOME reason for this to be built in Preston rather then anywhere else… what is the reasoning? – is that reasoning wrong? Why is it wrong?
The article does not seem really say anything other then “i dislike Preston” and “i wana shopping centre”.
If there is not detailed thought-out reasoning then it’s no wonder people come away thinking “ya just jealous” etc.
soz.
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No problem boney I don’t mind people disagreeing with my articles, that’s what civilised debate is all about. I guess I didn’t make the ‘ego’ point very clear, I guess yes I mean the councillors, town hall chiefs etc in Preston when I speak of the ’3rd city ego’. Also I don’t agree with all this ‘Las Vegas’ stuff, I think it is farfetched. I forsee a much more realistic vision for Blackpool of making Blackpool a vibrant 21st century destination. I think the reasoning of building such a development in Preston is wrong because it is just a small working class market town not a big bustling affluent city there is no need for fancy shops etc, it is unrealistic. Also I object on the grounds that only a small minority of Preston will benefit and it will detriment all other Lancashire towns. Developments should be proportionate taking other towns into consideration. Also John Bickerstaffe, this is the whole thing I don’t want Blackpool to ‘ride on Preston’s back’. We don’t need Preston we are a thriving tourist resort we have a much much larger catchment area than the non-existent Preston catchment area and we bring a lot more revenue into the county than Preston.
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Penis Clappow is a complete MORON,Blackpool also blocked Fleetwood developing freeport,he is without vision and skills, except at being a 1st class shithead, which he does with remarkable ease.
I hate him and his odious cronies.
His attitude is based on jealousy, sounds familiar? yes thats a nulabour trait!
Dont like someone else doing better? Instead of trying harder, just bring them down!
He is a nulabour man through and through.
He is not a true conservative, he should be using this as an opportunity to help Blackpool , not waste 250k of ratepayers money on solicitors who will laugh all the way to the bank.
I despair.
Consider this:
What happens when Blackpool gets a massive opportunity and Preston decide to block that?
What happens when Preston wants to develop a massive entertainment complex on the docks, (as Preston has far superior transport infrastructure), what happens then?
Blackpool is screwed, PC is myopic and a total numbskull fart.
Cluelees vlot Fallow and his team of twats, Weaver et al,should concentrate on upping the ante and getting on with doing what he should have been doing all along.
BRINGING IN INVESTMENT, like Preston is trying to do.
Callow resign and take your wife,that fetid wart infested shell of excrement who is an acolyte of Dr Beeching, with you.
Go and let Blackpool prosper, PROPERLY.
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I agree about Freeport, Harold. Freeport was never a threat to other shopping centres so objecting that just seems silly. But the reason I feel we are right to object to Tithebarn is because it is far too big and will detriment other towns.
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My fear is that this will backfire for future generations in that Preston could start objecting, if Preston lose the case.
They have superior infratstucture, something that Fallow should be wanting for Blackpool, look at that stupid shit of a wife of his who wants to truncate the south line?
Jesus fuckin wept, utterly clueless the pair of them, they are a national disgrace.
Preston didnt object to the Casino, where was callow campaigning for a plan B then? nowhere, the cluesless twat.
Fallow is a fucking liability and if I were a conservative, I would want him out,hes a disgrace.
The only winners here are the solicitors.
Blackpool should concentrate on its primary strength:Entertainment,NOT shopping.
Anyway its cheaper and less hassle to shop online these days.
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That is a worry of mine Harold, they will just bitterly start objecting everytime we want to repaint the Tower. The thing is though I want Blackpool to be a better shopping town while still keeping true to our main industry of leisure and entertainment. This is the thing though I want to see more quality restaurants and brands in Blackpool, if Preston gets them we never will. As you know I never supported the casino anyway and that was never a threat to Preston, its not like they even have any visitors. But it was more Fisher and Weaver’s fault we have no Plan B. Although hopefully the snowdome will be our plan b.
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250k spent on studies for investment is better than for solicitors in which they may win a battle but lose the war, we need to move on and quick.
The vote on the gasjet showed that there was an overhwlmimg majority that objected to fallows stance.
Its a shame local elections arent happening for Blackpool this year.
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I agree there, but the £250k could also be wasted on the salaries of Weaver and co. But I must say the Gasjet polls are the most unreliable polls you can ever get. Anyone in the world with internet access, registered or unregistered can vote on them as many times as they like, so the results cannot be trusted on any poll on the Gasjet website. Its like if there was a poll ‘Blackpool or Benidorm’ BlackpoolRockSeller could just rig the poll so 90% wll say Benidorm.
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http://www.lep.co.uk/travel/100m-tram-plan.5924921.jp?CommentPage=3&CommentPageLength=10
Preston going ahead again, here in Wyre we are in desperate need of a restored rail link and we get nothing!!
just what the fuck is goin on, its like we are in another time zone on the fylde!
we have 3 useless councils thats why!! and all 3 claim to be conservative, NOT that they are.
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How can we be taken seriously and get help when the elected MP’s ask ridiculous Questions of the Prime Minister in the middle of important debate.
View this from the start and see how Sad the question seem’s in context with the debate.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2010-02-10a.902.10&s=gordon+marsden#g906.6
before the event has even taken place ?
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I agree totally that question is totally pointless and ridiculous, it looks to me like Marsden trying to claim credit for Showzam and all the other regeneration works. It is just cheap political pointscoring. MARSDEN OUT 2010!!!
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