This article caught my attention on BBC News tonight. It makes me laugh that Labour are still using such desperate and underhand tactics. But what infuriates me is that there are people who are gullible enough to buy into this shite.
But yet again Labour is banging on about ‘fairness’ a concept which is completely alien to Labour if the last 13 years are anything to go by. If the 80s were so ‘unfair’ why did people of all backgrounds get a free education at university? If it was so ‘unfair’ how come people were awarded jobs on the basis of merit not how many boxes they tick?
Which brings me onto the sole focus of this article. The local Labour party has caused anger and resentment by forcing in an all-woman shortlist for a replacement for Joan Humble. I completely disagree with any of this discrimination. There is no justification for it. I am aware other parties have been using these ridiculous measures to try and ‘even out’ the party. But at the end of the day, MPs are supposed to run the country and make laws, making very significant decisions. I would sleep much easier at night knowing the people doing this were the most suitably qualified and able candidates for the job. I don’t give a toss what school they went to, whether they’re male or female or anything else. I will vote for a local MP based on merit, one reason Hamish Howitt must be kept out at all costs, a more unsuitable candidate there isn’t.
I will not have Labour preaching about ‘fairness’, they know nothing of this. It was Liebour that introduced hypocritical unfair tuition fees and wants to increase fees making it extremely expensive for parents to send their children to university, that’s not fairness. We have a more divided society than ever before. Hard-working middle-class families are battered with taxes, stealth taxes and more taxes yet our money is then squandered on rubbish.
If I want to learn about fairness then Labour are the last people on earth I will go to for advice. If you want true fairness then vote Labour out in 2010.
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Well said TB, truly excellent and fuckin inspirational!
Beaming grin on my face!
The virtue that defines Labour is hypocrisy;the simulation of virtue.They are racist,classist,sexist and anti christian.No other party has divided this country as much as labour and no other party could , even if they tried.Harriet Harman is morally, the New Myra Hindley;warped beyond redemption.
When I hear “fair” mentioned by Borman/Brown it really means FEAR.
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“I will not have Labour preaching about ‘fairness’, they know nothing of this.”
and who are you, little man, to decide what is allowed and what is not?
A narrow minded bigot who will be very disappointed when the votes are counted in May /June, methinks.
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Don’t you dare speak to me like that, I am not a ‘narrow minded bigot’ I am entitled to an opinion. I will not be disappointed, Blackpool deserves an MP who will fight for Blackpool and that ain’t Marsden. Blackpool and the country has been wrecked by Liebour for too long. You are welcome to make constructive comments on my articles, but do not insult me like that, I will not tolerate it.
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Well I susppose I am a bigot (especially as a BNP protest voter, lol) as well, so its a complement as far as I am concerned, 5 more years of liebour, Jesus hell no!
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Well said Harold, Labour has brought this country to its knees and Blackpool has suffered as well, yet people still want them back in. We are long overdue a change. I want a LOCAL MP who actually lives in Blackpool and will fight for Blackpool. I want to see Liebour eradicated from the Fylde Coast for good, we are not a traditional Labour area.
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I agree TB, Doreen Holt sounds a good choice as Ron has screwed up,with Penny now standing things are hotting up a bit here as well
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I may still vote for Mr Bell as I say as a tactical vote to get Marsden out. But the candidate who most intrigues me is the still yet to be named Integrity candidate, all that has been revealed is that it will be a local GP. Phil is waiting for the official announcement off Bill, but that seems a very interesting choice. UKIP are out of the question for me for obvious reasons.
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yes fair point,UKIPs choice beggars belief as for me I am a natural UKIP voter,if its a good day I will vote for them, if I am pissed off its the BNP…………but who is this mystery PPC?
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That’s the most annoying thing, UKIP are on my wavelength too as a right-leaning voter but I will not vote for them with these pro-smoking idiots on board. As I say I want a local MP who will fight for Blackpool. Hamish may be local, but he doesn’t give a toss about Blackpool or UKIP, this is all about his pro-smoking agenda.
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spot on 100%, they have made a bad choice in taking him on,a decent candidate and they could have come away with a respectable 2nd place.My money is on ron Bell but I prefer Doreen Holt, especially after Rons screw up with kensigntons, either way it will be interesting, as long as marsden and liebour are OUT
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Same here Harold as long as Marsden is booted out and Hamish is humiliated, I will be happy. LABOUR OUT 2010!!!!!
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Hamish’s aspirations will go up in smoke, lol
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Love the pun, lol
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The grapevine suggests that the delay in announcement of the potential Integrity PPC may be because he wants to stand for George Galloway’s Respect party.
Bizarre!
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respect party?????
for fucks sake!
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Very bizzare and not a good sign either I can’t stand Galloway
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Interesting idea by the lib dems but at the EXPENSE of badly needed roads (A585 replacement for example)?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8603009.stm
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Considering the government only spends 5 billion on roads now, thats a monster cut.
Would I rather have rail or road? Well, road, quite honestly.
The party that comes along with a transport policy based on choice will be a breath of fresh air. Why cant we have good buses, good rail, good roads, good local airports? Other countries can do it. Why is it always either/or in Britain?
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Totally agree Phil, perhaps pulling out of afghanistan and cutting the ring fenced overseas aid budget could achieve this?
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By the dictionary definition, this post is biased enough to suggest that bigot might be an accurate description!
Its over to you to show that Mr Stockley/Duffy that this isn’t the case!
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Surely not the the repulsive Ian Duffy???
Fleetwood liebour councillor and marxist PC bigot (who stands by and lets Russell Foreskin get away with his Action Plan)?
I have a few questions for you Mr Duffy.
Why havent you been protesting about these council plans that will gridlock our roads?
why didnt you attend the AAP meetings in march last year?
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Bigot is always a strong word to use in any context but in broad terms it could easily apply to this post. TB wasn’t talking about central offices setting a all women’s list but was using this to attack Labour and then Socialism. TB says he hates Socialism but feels Free Education and Healthcare are wonderful ideas this is at the core of Socialism (or are least part of the core). So perhaps TB is narrow minded about his political views and can’t see the good policies from the bad perhaps this is way he is going to vote for a corrupt candidate. TB says he wants a MP that will strongly represent Blackpool Penny has a very good track record of representing the views of the people who elected her. TB says that the MPs should live within the area they represent Penny has lived there for ever and is very much part of the local community. TB wants an individual who will go against their party if it’s better for the community they represent Penny has done this as a councillor. In other words Penny is the ideal candidate except that she is standing for Labour which is why TB (and myself) are not going to vote for her that can be described as bigotry. So perhaps TB should write a post of fairness about himself.
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A very good comment ‘a bit fed up’, but I am not a ‘bigot’. Also Labour do not represent free education and healthcare, they took away free education and there is no such thing as free healthcare under Liebour. Under a Conservative Government we had free education it was Labour that ended it. Our ‘local’ MP Marsden also supported these measures. But for the record I can’t vote for Martin anyway because I live in Blackpool South. I was simply saying this ridiculous all-woman shortlist is discrimination.
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Michael ,I dread another 5 years of labour;it will amount to national suicide.
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The Labour party are continually spouting on about fairness but whilst being anything but. Those who work hard still have to work against the old boys network and family members/friends to get anywhere and now are hit with a disproportionate amount of tax whether it be income tax or the increasing number of things you have to pay (water, gas, electric, council tax combined with robbing pension pots so that we’ll almost all be in poverty when we retire) that have risen enormously but which Labour thinks (probably rightly) that most of its supporters won’t blame on them even though they are at the heart of all these rises. Two truths always persist – Labour will bugger up the very structure of the economy and their supporters will be too thick to realise. That is the real painful legacy that Blair left whilst he basks in his oil millions that others paid the blood price for.
Are all women shortlists unfair? On the face of it, yes. But given that so many local political parties are little cliques of backward older aged men you must admit that almost all women that do get through without them have to be a lot better than a male candidate to do so. Of course I’d like them banned simply because they do mean a better white man doesn’t stand a chance and one form of inequality doesn’t even out another – but there’s unfairness at the very heart as well as the top of these parties.
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Heres another truth, labour will always rob from those who have the courage/merit/character to better themselves and give to those who are feckless scroungers.Labour is the party of the underclass, especially with browns insanse idea to eradicate child poverty by making sure all underclass kids get a Wii.
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What is needed now in this country is a REVOLUTION not a military one but a BLOODLESS REVOLUTION,i have just read about such a thing by the author Vernon Coleman,in this book he talks about the way forward for real democracy in westminster is by Independant MPs the current party machine of labour/conservatives/liberal are only interested in protecting the party and not interested in making change as it’s not in the party interest, the only thing that matters is looking after themselves.
I would certainly recommend a read of it.
BLOODLESS REVOLUTION by Vernon Coleman.
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Thanks Petrer
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Well, well, well, an anti-Labour rant by such chunder heads as those that have posted above, will not change the course of the coming election.
Cameron gave away a fifteen point lead and is now on the ropes, so guys, get ready for another four years of People Power (or leave the Country……)
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If labour get in it will be paedo power NOT people power, lol
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This is bollocks, yes the Tories had a lead and Labour closed it as a result of slick rhetoric and what was seen as a neutral budget but the Tories are stretching the lead again now.
I am not anti Labour (anti new labour certainly) but I can see only two ends from this election a narrow Tory win or a hung parliament.
A hung parliament is what the people deserve for having put with the shit of New Labour for the last 14 years as it would decimate the economy and interest rates would start to climb within days as the bond strike took hold.
If Brown tries and strikes a deal with the lib dems then the first thing they will ask for is that he fucks off. I can then see Johnson or Darling at the helm with Cable as chancellor.
Cable at finance may not be such a bad thing as he was the one politician to link the consumer boom to ever increasing property values that could not be underpinned with real productivity.
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Childish
(and by the way, it’s WHEN…)
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I’m curious as to how you believe Labour being re-elected constitutes people power. The only power here is Big Government.
Under Labour, the population has become controlled more than ever by Big Government, such that now an ever increasing number of people are reliant on it for either direct employment (civil service, NHS, police, armed forces and so on), implied employment (defence, IT contractors such as Hewlett Packard (EDS), etc) or benefits.
We’re under more CCTV than ever. We have more speed cameras than anywhere.
Laws such as the Terrorism Act being abused by a corrupt uncontrolled Police force on a mad power trip.
This is a Government that harboured a police cover up that was the result of an innocent man being shot 7 times in the head for wearing a ruck sack.
This Government has presided over libel laws that seek only to benefit those with very large sums of money in their pockets, allowing the domination of big business in the courts.
We have a Government whose own ministers and lords were exposed by the media for selling policy making and people placement services to big business for up to £5,000 per day, resulting in their expulsion from the parliamentary Labour party and suspension from the House of Lords.
We have a Government that fabricates stories about opposition MPs and spreads them amongst a web-based rumour mill operated by its own spin doctors.
Labour is the party under whom you can be better off by being on benefits than working full time.
Labour claims to be the party of the health service, but Labour are the ones that are, little by little, moving the NHS into the private sector. Look at dentistry – many people can’t get a NHS dentist for love nor money but this is because Labour’s new pricing structure for dentistry has caused many dentists to focus only on private work.
Indeed, Labour is the party under whose stewardship a dental checkup on the NHS has gone from £6 to £17. But not only that, one in four NHS trusts are failing to balance their own books. Labours obsession with PFIs has created chaos in the management of the NHS, to the detriment of patient care.
We have a Government whose ministers are at ease with smearing our own soldiers in the Gurkha appeal.
This Government is the one that fails to punish serious criminals and treats prison as a “revolving doors” style temporary accommodation for repeat offenders rather than an institution for punishment and character reform.
We have a Prime Minister who, when Chancellor, cut defence spending in the middle of a war leading to many unnecessary deaths. Not only that, he lied to the public enquiry about it and got away with it.
The same man used our national coffers to bankroll an artificial boom which went bust as soon as the money ran out, completely contradicting a promise he made when he first became Chancellor.
In a continuation of Mrs Thatcher’s policy, this Labour government wants to complete the selling off of the Royal Mail, putting all public services into the private sector.
This Government has implemented Big Government decisions that have left local authorities in unpopular catch 22 situations. Kensingtongate has got the local Tories in trouble, but the root cause is Labour and more specifically John Prescott, who was the man that reclassified Marton Moss so that it could be built on. He then created Regional Assemblies to blindly make housing allocations. These decisions didn’t take local opinion and issues into account, and provided no money to incentivise despite there supposedly being tax breaks for companies wanting to develop brownfield sites (of which there are apparently quite a few locally that could have been used for reasonable developments).
It’s amazing that anyone can support a government whose very mastermind, Lord Mandelson, has been sacked twice amidst a cloud of bigwig hobnobbing and secret loans, and whose ministers such as Peter Hain were caught laundering donations through a middle man in order to disguise their origin.
This Government has identified £13billion in savings that can be made in Whitehall alone. If there is such a big saving to be made, how was it ever allowed to grow to this level and why isn’t it being saved now? Because this is party of the false boom Gordon Brown and Tony Blair parented; they created unnecessary jobs to buy voters which cost the taxpayer billions. But now these jobs will need to be cut.
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Absolutely excellent Phil, summarises everything that is wrong with this Liebour Government. As you very rightly say people on benefits have never been better off while hard-working families have never been worse off. We have a massive wasteful public sector costing us unecessaery billions, an economy in a dire state because of Labour’s mismanagement. I agree completely Phil if narrow-minded Labour supporters think the last 13 years are ‘people power’ they clearly have very selective memories.
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When someone says people power they mean big goverment, COMMUNISM/MARXISM.
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If politicians really want to represent the hard working people of this country instead of suckering up to the scroungers and idle lazy waste of space in our society whose only contribution is more and more uneducated children who they don’t give a dam about other than what financial benifit they will receive from the state(hard working tax payers money) politicians never enter into discussion on the really BIG ISSUES for instance welfare benifit since labour came to power the DHSS budget has increased from 180 billion to over 300billion well i’m sure i could trim this down considerable which would help to reduce this countries debt.But of course it’s not in the politicians interest to change anything.
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I agree completely petrer, as you say the current social security budget is about £300bn nearly the NHS and education budgets combined and it is the by miles the largest area spent on but how much of it could easily be saved one wonders? There are so many frauds out there ‘on the sick’ who have nothing wrong with them. All they have to do is say ‘i’ve got a bad back’ and they’re signed off. A bad back doesn’t stop you doing any job. Sure it could stop you being a removal man or a builder but not working behind a desk. If you are fit enough to work then you should do, its a fair enough compromise. The only ones who should get welfare are the truly needy.
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One scrounger who defrauds and hides behind a disabled (mildly autistsic) child gets 300 quid a week here in Thornton.
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I heard of somebody who gets £2500 a month (aprox £625 a week) which is more than what I earn who has never worked a day in her life and has nothing wrong with her.
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I am thinking of setting up a website naming and shaming these creatures, starting with the pollitts/yusufs.
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I agree, but how can we do anything about it? Voting the current Government out wont change that. Well, no, it might but not by much. It wont change people into believing that work is the best way forward and benefits careers are not.
Where else can you go on benefits and be given a house, for free, that is beyond your wildest dreams of financial means, and be paid to live in it?
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That’s the problem really noone is willing to tackle these problems head on. Labour have proven after 13 years of gross incompetence they will do fuck all, but no other party has clear strategies to reform the system either
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Again another issue that one would have thought would have been easy meat for a truly CONNSERVATIVE party……………
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well said Sir and the Politts/Yusuf vermin epitomise this.
The new scrounger agency under new labour: The Pollitbureau.
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Trueblackpudlian.
There is nothing wrong in being on benefits. I have been on benefits for the last six years and combined with a few days car booting and the odd bit of DVD piracy, have never been better off. I will be voting for them again, for sure.
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There is nothing wrong with being on benefits if you are on them legitimately. I do not know of your circumstances so I cannot comment. But there are people taking the piss out of the system because they know Labour are a soft touch and they need to be got into work, they are a drain on the taxpayer.
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The only answer i(n my book) for scroungers is : ZYCLON B
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Baiting at its best!
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Too true, I shouldn’t have justified it with a reply.
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lol are you sure this isnt one of the Politts or yusufs here?
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Doesn’t matter, nothing out of order has been said… yet!
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I think its funny, bring it on, lol!
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Trueblackpudlian.
You didn’t justify anything with a reply.
You DIGNIFIED it.
I may be on benefits but I an obviously more congruent with English grammar than you are (and probably make more money, as well).
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looks like you get the BENEFITS of doubt Comrade Stockley, lol
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Jesus christ, lol
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Comrade Stockeley
You say you are on benefit and do car booting and DVD piracy well whats stopping you from working for yourself,obviously you think it’s ok to claim benifts and do a little on the side screwing the system at both ends. I have a suggestion for a fairer outcome in the general election anyone on benifit excluding pensioners are excluded from the right to vote after all these scroungers don’t want to contribute to our society but have the right to have a say at mine and every tax payers expense, there are exceptions but nothing like what the tax payer is saddle with today
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Just doling out the truth….
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Petrer:
If I work for myself I’ve got to pay a stamp, income tax, lose my benefits and housing allowance and probably a few days leisure (I currently do about three and a half to four days a week). It’s a no-brainer. Oh, and every eight weeks I do a ciggy run and the money I make selling the fags when I come back, pays for my break. There is no way me or my kids could live like this if I was stacking shelves somewhere.
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Comrade Stockely
It’s just what this country needs a father with no ambition whose happy to live on benefit at the same time doing scams, what an example you are setting to your children,it’s alright to have no ambition for yourself but to bring children into this world and having to rely on state handouts i find totally selfish.
Your epitaph would read he came into this world with nothing and left owing it
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Its all part of zanulabours plan to eradicate child poverty, everyone gets a free TFT/Plasma TV to watch their friends on Jeremy Kyle.
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Sorry, you misunderstand my motivation. I do have ambition and drive, I’m not like those deadbeats that are content to just receive Benefits and sit on their backsides. My children know and appreciate the value of money and hard work (my middle lad is out this weekend, working for one of my mates on the darts stall on the Prom and probably won’t finish until late tonight).
They know they cannot (and should not) rely totally on State handouts, they have to work as well.
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Comrade Stockely
I hear your comments regarding your children, but don’t you agree, you should be setting the example first for your children to follow,or were you excluding yourself from that statement.
Your thinking and the thinking of millions of benefit claimants(note i say claimants not customers which the pc brigade prefer to use because customers are people who pay for a service ,claimants are people who receive benefits whether they have contributed to the system or not) one thing i know change eventually will have to happen which i believe will be forced upon whoever the government is ,time to be scourring the jobs vacancies
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claimants! spot on, so true NOT customers!
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I agree with you. The example I am trying to set is that of a work ethos. I repeatedly try to instill into them the fact that they cannot rely solely on State Benefits if they want the better things in life. They must also find an “earner”.
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I never claimed benifits and i work my ass of so I don’t have to since i was 16. CS you are a prime example of what is wrong with the system “i need more money then the benifits give me so i will do it illeagaly fuck the poor suckers who don’t”. I am one of these poor suckers and this is why I am not voting New Labour.
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I respect your point of view and all I can say in my defence is that I didn’t make the System the way it is, I am merely “working it” to my own and my family’s advantage.
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and the sytem is down to nulabour…………….
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And the system’s wrong. But so are you for breaking the law. I’m sorry but cheating taxes and benefits is not justified under any circumstances. And you’re far from alone.
What is needed is a reform of the benefits system. It is grossly unfair that starting to earn something can make you much, much poorer once you’ve declared it. But if someone not in your position earns that money instead, taxes are paid and the country gets a little richer rather than just you.
What’s needed is real opportunity for people to make a good life FOR THEMSELVES – which sadly Labour have failed to provide. They’re far too happy keeping people down in deprivation and throwing better housing , and things at them rather than a real opportunity. I don’t think you want handouts from the state for being a good little boy – I’m sure you’d rather be responsible for providing for your family yourself. Grammar schools were a great idea – but discrimination on the basis of raw academic ability is now un-PC even though it got many from council estate to the professions.
If Comrade Stockley you want to make a real difference, don’t break the law. Become a political campaigner or politician yourself so that things really do change or at least you can say you really did your best to try to make them change. That will then get my respect.
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There are millions of people just like you JOHN who would like more money but choose to work and live within their means rather than live on handouts,the problem as i see it is not about the amount of money you earn but about how far it goes,the unfair tax system whether direct or by stealth is totally unfair to the honest and hard working man or woman,increases in NI contributions,local council tax, reduces your spending power especially when in the current climate,in the private sector wages are being frozen or even cut in order to stay in business,in effect you are penalized for working and being honest and your politicians don,t get it because it doesn,t effect them.
If we look at pensions an MP for one complete term in office receives a pension of £7500 per year,Tony Blair receives a pension from the tax payer of £65000 per year so i ask is it fair for say yourself ,who has worked your entire life to receive an annual basic state pension of around £6500 i think not, a worthless MP can receive in one full term what takes you a lifetime to obtain.
Comrade Stockley says he is only working the system, him and the rest of the socialist supporters,MPs receive a salary of £65000 per annum for delivering nothing , in addition to their £100,000 allowances and expenses and lets not forget about the accrual of their pensions they certainly have no worries in trying to pay their bills and the LABOUR party call themselves socialist I THINK NOT.
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Its a case of socialism abnegating personal responsibility
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