Dave’s now come completely clean. He is a tree-hugger at heart. Today’s comments that he will “plant more trees” displays an alarming change of direction, trying to win Liberal Democrat voters in seats where the Labour vote is perceived to have collapsed following the recent Leaders’ debates.
It’s being reported that Ed Balls’ seat in Yorkshire could be under threat.
Cameron made a direct appeal to Nick Clegg’s faithful;
“If you want a government with liberal values, vote Conservative.
“If you care about the environment, if you care about getting the government off your back, if you care about civil liberties, you need the clean break of a Conservative government.”
I’m pretty sympathetic to that, and it’s what I am looking for in a Government following the election.
But we’re getting a hung parliament and the coalition parties are not going to be able to deliver on any of their pre-election promises. Even if we go off the Leaders’ Debate polls and by some miracle the Liberal Democrats end up as the largest party, Nick Clegg’s promise to give the first £10,000 tax free can only be implemented if Labour or the Conservatives support it. The only thing you can guarantee with a LibLab coalition is that National Insurance will rise.
I think this is a very important point really. People believe they are voting Liberal Democrat to get free tuition fees, scrapping of Trident, scrapping of ID cards, and so on, but these can only happen in a hung parliament if they can get a majority. Same with the Conservatives; even if they were the largest party, they’d not be able to implement any of their policies because Labour and the Liberal Democrats would block them.
Lets consider Trident as an example, and lets assume the Liberal Democrats are the largest party but don’t have a majority. We know the Liberal Democrats want to scrap it and save £100bn to pay for other things including the national debt. But whilst they don’t have a majority in the House of Commons, they will never be able to implement this policy because the Conservatives and Labour are both in favour of Trident. Since many of the other Liberal Democrat policies are being paid for off the back of Trident savings, they would, to put it bluntly, be fucked and be unable to deliver on their manifesto.
This is the problem with hung parliaments and why Dave says nothing will ever get done.
loading…
I cant vote for any of them and why should I?
loading...
Well if need pointers on how to vote Harold….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH_tw0P5JHs
I bet some geek gets paid £100k a year to come up with shite like that!!
My postal ballot paper arrived today..Mr Goodwin and Mrs Holt did not wish there address to be printed on the ballot. Hamish lives in FY1 4HT which I suspect is out of constituency, Mr Tun lives in Lytham St Annes.
Some bloke called Marsden allegedly lives in a top flat at 59 Highfield Rd which as I understand it is funded by the taxpayer (not for much longer we hope
.
Mr Bell lives in Melijane what ever the feck that is…..FY4 5EA
It is ordered alphabetically with Bell at the top and Tun at the bottom 6 Candidates in total.
One thing my ballot has both a number and a code upon it. No doubt so as big brother can figure out how I voted come the revolution…
loading...
To:- geezer466
You seem to like UKIP have a look at this. http://candidates.ukip.org/index.php?pg=show&eid=317
Be sure to click the link in the middle of the page.
It should really inspire you with confidence.
Please let me know what you think.
loading...
Hamish is of course not MP material and I have never said he is. All that is irrelevant though as he will not get in in Blackpool South.
To be honest for all his faults it takes a certain determination and a guts to progress a case through the High Court and on the the ECHR.
I was once part of a group that challenged a notorious device called the LTI 20/20 and had to go to the Strand to argue my corner. End of the day we took legal advice and dropped the case cost all round of about £2000 but only simply as the Home Office stitched us up in the face of overwhelming evidence that the device was unreliable.
So that says to me the bloke has a level of determination. Some people that post on this site are using the man’s anti-smoking ban campaign as a stick to beat him with. Now I am a reformed smoker and can’t stand people smoking alongside me in indoor spaces but I would defend under arms if necessary a persons right to choose. I firmly beleive the Government got it wrong and should have allowed licensed premises to provide a smoking room if they so wished. That then preserves the rights of people to choose which was the over riding aspect of all of this.
So Hamish lost his case in the end having taken it as far as he possibly could at great risk to his personal finances and professional standing, never under estimate the ability of a Government to feck up in legislation and do not deride the common mans right of redress through the judicial system.
To me it makes no odds who is standing for UKIP I simply want to send a message to LibLabCon that enough is enough. If Hamish gets to third maybe even second place then hats off to the bloke for even trying………
loading...
It’s easy to keep fighting unwinnable court cases when someone else is paying for it, though.
The government should have allowed landlords to choose but then what would the point have been of the law, because no landlord would persecute their customers!
Why stop at the smoking room, why not just allow smoking anywhere? Surely confining smokers to a certain area is giving in to this nannyish law?
As for Howitt finishing second, I think that’s way off the mark. UKIP got only a few hundred votes last time – even less than the BNP. Hamish Howitt is not a vote winner. Even in Glasgow he only got about 10 votes.
loading...
Prior to the law coming in pubs and clubs were starting to self regulate providing an alternative for all points of view.
Other European states had room for a compromise why not the UK?
I say again this is not about smoking it is about choice. If I had come on here 20 years ago (had it been possible) and said in 2007 the Government of the day will ban smoking in all public places such as pubs I would have been laughed off.
Now here is another prediction. in 20 years time do you think you will be able to still buy a pint or a shot of whisky?
loading...
To:- geezer466
You seem to like UKIP have a look at this.
http://candidates.ukip.org/index.php?pg=show&eid=317
****Be sure to click the link in the middle of the page.*******
It should really inspire you with confidence.
Please let me know what you think.
loading...
lol shite it is, 100%!
loading...
As a matter of interest; Melijane is on Division Lane in Marton Moss, the houses are named not numbered down there, a very nice road it is, I hope to live there myself one day. Mrs Holt lives on Erdington Road (off Central Drive) last time I checked, don’t have a clue where Mr Goodwin lives, couldn’t care less where Hamish lives but I can certainly say Marsden does not ‘live’ at 59 Highfield Rd. 59 Highfield Rd is a tiny little flat on the corner of Laurel Avenue and Highfield Rd not far from me, if you walk past the windows are plastered with ‘Vote Liebour’ posters. But he doesn’t live there, he’s never there. I live within walking distance of Highfield Rd and in all the years I have lived in South Shore, (I’m originally from Marton) I have never seen him in the area or anywhere in Blackpool unless it is in The Gazette. His true address is in Brighton but he won’t admit that. Yet we the taxpayer are paying for Marsden to claim expenses on that flat which is classed as his second home.
loading...
The reason Doreen Holt doesn’t have her address on the ballot paper is because of threats from certain people following the recent guilty verdict against the man accused of killing her son. As a long serving Blackpool Councillor, Doreen’s address is a matter of public record. She not only lives in the middle of the constituency, she has represented the community for three decades. Cllr. Bell lives in St. Annes as does Dr. Tun. Mr Marsden lives in Brighton, Mr Goodwin lives in a caravan park in Marton and I have no idea where Hamish lives!
loading...
Ron Bell only lives in St Annes because of the very silly borders, if you live on the North side of Division Lane, it is Blackpool, the South Side it is Fylde, but it is still Blackpool as far as I am concerned. I agree Cllr Holt would be a good representative for Blackpool and like I say I am considering her for a vote but I have not recieved a leaflet yet from the Lib Dems yet. Marsden is just taking the mick quite frankly not only living 300 miles away but living in Blackpool’s Southern rival, there is a sort of poetic irony to it. I feel an MP should live in their area. I don’t have a problem with an MP living say next door in Fylde, Wyre etc but Brighton is just a step too far.
loading...
Ron Bell(end) is not fit for public office, hes bent, mind you so is GM but hes an MP, lol
loading...
It’s very sad but once again I have to agree with Harold Bell isn’t fit for office most people can see this but some still seem desperate to find a reason to vote for him. Marsden has failed in his time as a MP and shouldn’t be given another shot.
loading...
That is my biggest worry personally a Hung Parliament, because I worry we will end up with a left-wing coalition. My bet is the Lib Dems will promise Labour a coalition if they dump Brown meaning Brown the Clown is gone but we have another left-wing Government which is not what I want to see. I really hope for the sake of the nation we get a Conservative majority. There is not much chance of a Lib Dem Government because even if the Lib Dems had the largest share of the vote and Labour came third they will still be the largest party. But personally more than anything I am thinking of my local constituency and I want to see an MP who will fight for Blackpool and actually lives in the area, I want to see Marsden gone and hopefully Liebour eradicated on the entire Fylde Coast for good.
loading...
Would Vincent Cable get the Chancellor role in a Lib Lab pact? Might not be a bad shout.
loading...
I wouldn’t mind Vince Cable as Chancellor he is a good guy and I don’t think Nick Clegg is a bad guy but I don’t want a coalition of two left-wing parties especially if it means smarmy toads like Andy Burnham and Ed Balls get to stay in the Cabinet. I could live with a Conservative-Lib Dem coalition, but personally I would just rather have an outright majority to keep Labour out full stop.
loading...
Perhaps a hung parliament would not be a bad thing don’t you think it’s time we stopped swinging from left to right to left (mind you I don’t think new Labour are particularly left).
loading...
So this is the Gordon Brown who as smarmy brownnose (pun not intended) Andy Burnham who ‘listens’ to people and ‘talks to the people’, this video begs to differ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8608479.stm
loading...
Hi Guys
Have a look at this for an offical candidates website click the link in the middle of page.
http://candidates.ukip.org/index.php?pg=show&eid=317
loading...
Hi Guys.
Have a look at this candidates website it gets really interesting when you click the link in the middle of the page.
loading...
Which candidate sorry?
loading...
ups silly me forgot to include the web page, you will have to remove the space between “? php?” to get it to work
http://candidates.ukip.org/index.php? pg=show&eid=317
loading...
sorry guys it will not accept the url.
loading...
Try this just remove the spaces
http:// candida tes.ukip.o rg/index.p hp?pg=show &eid=317
loading...
Thanks for the link Bruiser, it just proves what a joke this guy is. I have said from day one Hamish is not UKIP material, he even says himself he is a socialist. Socialists and right-wing parties don’t mix. As for the UK FAGS site, don’t get me started, the biggest load of pro-smoking propaganda tripe I have ever seen. Blackpool South Vote UKIP at your peril, you will not get a UKIP MP, you will get a man pushing his silly, pointless and misguided campaign (wise words of the Honourable District Judge Peter Ward).
loading...
No one I have spoken to seems to know who to vote for, everyone is fedup with sleaze and lies
loading...
http://candidates.ukip.org/index.php?pg=show&eid=317
Thanks for the link, Bruiser. It just proves further what a joke this guy is, he says he is a socialist yet he is standing for a right-wing party that makes no sense. I have been on the UK FAGS site before but I couldn’t stand reading it after about 30 seconds, just blatant pro-smoking propaganda rubbish. Blackpool South Vote UKIP at your peril, you won’t get a UKIP MP, you will get a one-man pro-smoking agenda.
loading...
I have had a integrity uk leaflet today seems quite good have you had one for Blackpool south
loading...
Nope!
loading...
The result will be hung….
Another election will follow….
The result will be hung……
The impetus to reform the voting system will be unstoppable… Call me Dave will get caught up in and will be forced to come into line.
We stand on the cusp of change from centuries or Parliamentary tradition.
They have all brought it upon themselves….
loading...
Got my election leaflet this morning from Hamish Howitt, Doreen Holt, Roy Goodwin and Dr Tun.
Mr Goodwins,
Promises to Get us out of the Afghan, Put a stop to immigration (it would wouldn’t it) and raise the weekly oap pension to £150 paid for by cutting the overseas aid budget.
Mrs Holt’s contains the stuff the Lib Dems have been banging on about at a National Level giving prominence to no tax on the first £10k of earnings. She does go a little local and speaks about urgent action on new attractions and a new convention centre,
Dr Tun’s and Integrity UK talks about the state of the local roads, building on green belt land and concentrates on independent MP’s free from a party whip.. (not a bad thing perhaps).
Finally we come to Hamish who mentions on his leaflet about Marsden and the fact he ‘basks in Brighton other main points are No to mass immigration, yes to a referendum on all major issues and no to the EU wasting £45 million everyday in Brussels.
He also promises on his leaflet to give one third of his Parliamentary salary to under privileged senior citizens and kids in Blackpool a pledge none of the others have made.
Crucially he makes no mention of his pro smoking lobby for licensed premises.
loading...
It’s all in UKIP’s Pubs and Smoking policy – UKIP support putting the choice in landlords’ hands.
http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/pubs.pdf
loading...
Precisely Phil, that policy is a big reason why I refuse to vote UKIP. I don’t want smoking back in pubs. Things are so much better now and the ban has massive public support as shown by all reputable polls, even many smokers support the ban. As for all that other stuff I am not convinced, Hamish is not MP material at all, this is all about his personal agenda. The only reason he has kept his pro-smoking crusade quiet is for fear of being seen as an one-issue candidate. I agree with his point about Marsden but the only reason he is hitting out at Marsden is because Marsden is Labour and Labour brought the ban in. If it wasn’t for the ban I bet Hamish would be voting for Marsden. Hamish is not right-wing, he even says on his UKIP ‘I am a Christian Socialist’. Socialists and right-wing parties don’t mix. I reckon he will give UKIP their lowest ever vote share in Blackpool South because his undemocratic ‘selection’ has alienated a lot of would be UKIP voters.
loading...
Hamish only joined UKIP to further his smoking cause.
His leaflet has probably been written by the odious Fred McGlade, it has his stamp on it.
If you look at the stuff Hamish has previously written stuff it is incoherent and babbles on exclusively about smoking. See links
http://www.fyldeukip.org/ukip/leafletside1.jpg
http://www.fyldeukip.org/ukip/leafletside2.jpg
loading...
Hamish was a clear mistake for UKIP I do sort of admire the guy for making a stand against a law he feels is wrong but he is a one trick pony.
loading...
Big big mistake, he is not UKIP material and definitely not MP material. I don’t admire him at all, I despise smoking passionately and I don’t like pro-smokers like him and Nick Hogan thinking they can stick two fingers up at the law and do what they want.
loading...
That of course will be a law whipped by New Liebor as you describe them in another thread to ensure it was passed!!
You may well dislike smoking and pro smokers but you shouldn’t let your dislike influence wider opinions.
loading...
The smoking ban was actually a free vote and got strong support from all 3 main parties, the strongest support coming from the Lib Dems. It also has substantial public support, this is one of the only laws Labour has passed that has done any good.
loading...
Well, got my Integrity UK leaflet and my first Liberal Democrat leaflet (in the post) today. Got a Labour one the other day, so I will do a bit of a roundup over the next couple of days.
loading...
I’ve had two off Ron Bell, a Liebour leaflet personally addressed (why?) which I took one look at and tore to shreds but nothing off anyone else.
loading...