Comments on: Has the Penny dropped? http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/ Right-leaning Blackpool blog covering South Shore, North Shore, Marton, Bispham, Cleveleys and the rest of the Fylde discussing politics, local life, tourism, national issues and the rest of the world. Lively discussions encouraged! Tue, 22 May 2012 16:29:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: True Blackpudlian http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6158 True Blackpudlian Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:39:19 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6158 Same here Phil, I could not vote for her because I don't believe in the Labour Party and what they stand for. I don't want another Labour Government continuing driving the country into the ground. But I live in Blackpool South where we have had a useless Labour MP who doesn't even live in Blackpool. I have totally ruled out UKIP for obvious reasons, so for me it is either Lib Dem, Conservative or Integrity. But despite the fact the election is less than a month away I have not seen any campaign leaflets at all yet. Same here Phil, I could not vote for her because I don’t believe in the Labour Party and what they stand for. I don’t want another Labour Government continuing driving the country into the ground. But I live in Blackpool South where we have had a useless Labour MP who doesn’t even live in Blackpool. I have totally ruled out UKIP for obvious reasons, so for me it is either Lib Dem, Conservative or Integrity. But despite the fact the election is less than a month away I have not seen any campaign leaflets at all yet.

]]> By: Troobloo http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6154 Troobloo Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:30:42 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6154 To be fair, Penny Martin didn't make it an all-wimmin list! To be fair, Penny Martin didn’t make it an all-wimmin list!

]]> By: Harold http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6153 Harold Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:13:08 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6153 The system whether anyone likes it or not, has surely undermined her credibility and if I were Penny I wouldnt be happy at that. Theres only way to select: No discrimination and merit counts EVERY time.You dont say discrimination is wrong by discriminating............ The system whether anyone likes it or not, has surely undermined her credibility and if I were Penny I wouldnt be happy at that.

Theres only way to select: No discrimination and merit counts EVERY time.You dont say discrimination is wrong by discriminating…………

]]> By: Zim Flyer http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6152 Zim Flyer Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:10:25 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6152 If she is so great she wouldn't need to use a system of descrimination against men to win. She is window dressing and nothing more. If she is so great she wouldn’t need to use a system of descrimination against men to win.

She is window dressing and nothing more.

]]> By: Cleveleys Cowboy http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6150 Cleveleys Cowboy Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:57:47 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6150 I should have been a bit clearer in my statement about MPs assistants standing as MPs. I don't object to someone's current job in itself, but if the major part of someone's adult career has been in politics, I'd suggest to them that they get out and work/live in the ordinary world for a few years before asking me for their vote. It's very true that most people vote for the party in a general election, like football teams, red, blues, yellows. This is unavoidable really, because it's first past the post, all or nothing, electing a Government. Most of the time PR doesn't make sense to me, but every now and again I think it would be a good way of holding the big established parties to account. I should have been a bit clearer in my statement about MPs assistants standing as MPs. I don’t object to someone’s current job in itself, but if the major part of someone’s adult career has been in politics, I’d suggest to them that they get out and work/live in the ordinary world for a few years before asking me for their vote.

It’s very true that most people vote for the party in a general election, like football teams, red, blues, yellows. This is unavoidable really, because it’s first past the post, all or nothing, electing a Government. Most of the time PR doesn’t make sense to me, but every now and again I think it would be a good way of holding the big established parties to account.

]]> By: Harold http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6144 Harold Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:44:17 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6144 Fair point and thats just it; time to scrap the parties and have individuals standing instead and NOT party members. Fair point and thats just it; time to scrap the parties and have individuals standing instead and NOT party members.

]]> By: petrer http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6143 petrer Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:31:46 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6143 It doesn't matter if she is a nice person or even a good councillor she would be part of the party machine and would be told what to do and which way to vote,that doesn't seem much like representing the voters to me or democracy. Anyone with have a brain wouldn't stand for that, so the question needs to be asked is, why they want to represent us,the simple answer in my view is for power and rewards,representing the voter doesn,t even enter their heads. It doesn’t matter if she is a nice person or even a good councillor she would be part of the party machine and would be told what to do and which way to vote,that doesn’t seem much like representing the voters to me or democracy.

Anyone with have a brain wouldn’t stand for that, so the question needs to be asked is, why they want to represent us,the simple answer in my view is for power and rewards,representing the voter doesn,t even enter their heads.

]]> By: Harold http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6142 Harold Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:23:22 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6142 I understand your position John, I too have become so disillusioned with mainstream politics that I am gonna proably vote for a loony far right party, hopefull I will vote UKIP instead.Both parties have betrayed their core values,this is a consequence of the Blairism that I voted for (unknowlingly) in 97. If penny comes to my door I will urge her to ditch labour like Keith Riley, yet again we are put in these positions where we lose out on good candidates due to rotten parties.I suppose what I have said about Penny could equally apply to Paul Maynard. Put it this way mate, there will be no celebrations after election day unlike 97, (except for the BNP getting in Barking) just gloom and despair at a political syatem which is at its lowest ebb I can remember. On the subject of women candidates, the tories were the first party to produce a woman PM and they, then ,were not PC. I understand your position John, I too have become so disillusioned with mainstream politics that I am gonna proably vote for a loony far right party, hopefull I will vote UKIP instead.Both parties have betrayed their core values,this is a consequence of the Blairism that I voted for (unknowlingly) in 97.

If penny comes to my door I will urge her to ditch labour like Keith Riley, yet again we are put in these positions where we lose out on good candidates due to rotten parties.I suppose what I have said about Penny could equally apply to Paul Maynard.

Put it this way mate, there will be no celebrations after election day unlike 97, (except for the BNP getting in Barking) just gloom and despair at a political syatem which is at its lowest ebb I can remember.

On the subject of women candidates, the tories were the first party to produce a woman PM and they, then ,were not PC.

]]> By: john http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6141 john Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:12:07 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6141 As we have gone completely of topic I will drop in a post (which I have put on another bog site) Penny Martin is now officially the Labour PPC for Blackpool North. This brings up a problem for me personally I feel New Labour have betrayed any socialist principals that they ever had and they are a very very bad government. I was sure I wasn’t going to vote Labour equally I thought Joan Humble was the worst type of MP. However Penny is the type of MP we should be looking for she was an excellent councillor (you couldn’t ask for a better one everyone how had any dealings with her say this). So should you vote for the best candidate or against them because they are in a very bad party? I know this is a repeat post from another posting but this is where it should be. I also made my mind up about voting for Penny I'm not. Hate to say this but Harold right I feel she the right candidate but in the wrong party at the wrong time. As we have gone completely of topic I will drop in a post (which I have put on another bog site) Penny Martin is now officially the Labour PPC for Blackpool North. This brings up a problem for me personally I feel New Labour have betrayed any socialist principals that they ever had and they are a very very bad government. I was sure I wasn’t going to vote Labour equally I thought Joan Humble was the worst type of MP. However Penny is the type of MP we should be looking for she was an excellent councillor (you couldn’t ask for a better one everyone how had any dealings with her say this). So should you vote for the best candidate or against them because they are in a very bad party?
I know this is a repeat post from another posting but this is where it should be. I also made my mind up about voting for Penny I’m not. Hate to say this but Harold right I feel she the right candidate but in the wrong party at the wrong time.

]]> By: Harold http://philtheone.com/2010/04/has-the-penny-dropped/#comment-6140 Harold Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:06:03 +0000 http://philtheone.com/?p=2041#comment-6140 lol common purpose? lol common purpose?

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