Whilst the UAF have every right to protest against the British National Party, they have no right to prevent freedom of speech. The recent reports about the activities of Unite Against Fascism in Fleetwood come as no surprise, though.
The real loser here is the electorate and that is not democratic. Instead of allowing a BNP candidate to speak on issues like immigration and then provide a counter-argument, the UAF chose to intimidate her and prevent her from speaking. Whether or not you like the BNP, they are a legitimate party and are entitled to express their views: we are still a democracy. Or are we?
Not according to the bully boy, thuggish, Marxist rabble that is UAF, whose leader (or should I say Fuhrer) was recently arrested on charges of conspiring to riot in Bolton, when demonstrating against the English Defence League.
The UAF are nothing but the scum of the earth; a rag tag motley crew of dysfunctional social degenerates with more personality disorders than inmates of Broadmoor who seem determined to impose the idea of uniting against fascism by being, well, fascist.
It doesn’t add up.
Perhaps if these knuckle scrapping, fetid anthropoids actually asked why support is growing for the BNP they might learn something. It’s all down to their sponsor, Nulabour, who according to Andrew Neather wanted to multicultralise Britain without referendum or consultation. This again edges closer and closer to fascism.
Imagine if a mob of far right activists did the same to a Respect party candidate. The uproar would be legendary even within PC UK. You can imagine the airtime George Galloway would get.
Talking to people and seeing internet forums I get the impression that the UAF are finally, due to their antisocial actions, losing support. These middle class, filth sucking champagne socialists need to start embracing democracy and debate with all parties why their stance is productive. But no, it’s too much for histrionic harridans to do that, and far easier to scream racist or fascist. After all, its only one word and not a sentence which would be too much for those bubble brained clots.
The failure of the mainstream to discuss immigration without calling reasonable people racist is surely one reason why more votes are going to the British National Party. All they have done is give the BNP more publicity and shown themselves to be the thugs that they are. I don’t like any political ideology that is based upon race; you can’t choose your race. But we have such an ideology which is state sponsored, based upon the obsession of the difference between races, and its fuelling racism itself. It is called political correctness and it is a wholly racist, discriminatory ideology. It’s the best recruiting officer the BNP could ever want.
When Broon gets the boot on 6th may, his legacy won’t be Dave Cameron, it will be increased support for the BNP who under Labour have enjoyed success beyond their wildest dreams and all the UAF have done is bolster that support with their bullying and violence. I will be voting UKIP but if the BNP get more votes, it won’t come as a surprise, given this government’s appalling policies.
It’s time the UAF took a look at what they have become, for with Orwellian irony they have become the very thing that they claim to despise: fascists.
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BNP candidates like ducking difficult questions. Nobody would’ve been hurt as a result of the UAF demo and, no doubt, half of Lancashire’s old bill would’ve been out (mmmm, overtime!) It’s just a convenient excuse for this woman, whose idea of political discourse is to join a Facebook group called ‘Stop the ethnic cleansing of Britain’ and say that immigrants act ‘like savages’ to drop out. clearly with views like that, she’d struggle to convince anyone with more than a primary school education.
They have previous for this, of course, not least when they pulled their by-election candidate in Marton out of an election debate at Marton and put their local obergruphenfuhrer Roy Goddwin(an economic migrant from Oldham, lest we forget) up for a hustings.
What kind of questions doesn’t she fancy I wonder? How about – why does the BNP feel the need to foist a candidate from Warrington on the electorate of Lancaster and Fleetwood?
Of course, if she’s got nothing to hide, perhaps she could answer questions from users of this website? That would be interesting….
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“Nobody would’ve been hurt as a result of the UAF demo”.
like what happened here?: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/BNP-Hammer-Attack-Activist-Tony-Ward-from-Liverpool-Beaten-Up-In-Leigh-Greater-Manchester/Article/200903215241481?f=rss
and here, http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/26597
Nice bunch of people these UAF.
I am impressed Mr Osato,you can predict the future, does this mean you can guarentee complete protection?You must set up a security firm some time, in fact you could even offer protection to the candidate in question, just to prove your point that,”Nobody would’ve been hurt as a result of the UAF demo”.
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hey Phil, that picture isnt of peacefull activist weyman Bennet, is it? lol
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I do my homework!
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lol ,nice one,it sums up the UAF perfectly:SCUM.
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Hmm, on further examination there were no charges brought against anyone over the ‘hammer attack’ – I wonder why? And it doesn’t change the fact that there are UAF demonstrations up and down the country every week, which are succesfully policed with no harm done to the poor ickle BNP types. If she’d wanted to answer questions, she could and should’ve gone – but she chickened out, plain and simple. Usual BNP tactic, especially in this area.
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It may be Mr Osato that noone has yet been caught, many reported crimes remain without conviction.
You could ask the police that very question and give us their answer here?
I am sure you disapprove of such behavior and are keen to see it stopped so its a good question to ask, why havent you caught the thug(s) who attacked a man in the street with a hammer?
Well thanks to the UAF, she cant go and you have missed out on your opportunity to quiz her havent you Mr Osato?, you must feel cheated by the UAF.
Of course there are other areas where you could go and ask the BNP candidate, so why not go and ask them then?
Please report back you findings to this site, we would all love to hear what the answers were!
Hope you dont encounter any UAF thugs, you might get hammered!
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I’m sure the BNP will continue ‘hiding from the UAF thugs’ and using whatever other excuse they fancy to avoid having to explain or expand on their views. I reiterate – she could’ve gone, no harm would’ve come to her. In fact there are enough self-styled hard-nuts in the BNP to form a phalanx of security for her protection, on top of what the police will no doubt do. There’ll be UAF protests at the count (there certainly was last time) – will this mean candidates don’t turn up for a chance to step in front of a TV camera?
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Mr Osato, you might be interested in………….
Quote from Garry Shewan, Gold Commander for Greater Manchester Police who, felt compelled to point the finger firmly in the direction of the UAF.
“We have seen groups of people, predominantly associated with the UAF, engaging in violent confrontation,” he said. “It is clear to me that a large number have attended today with the sole intention of committing disorder and their actions have been wholly unacceptable.”
Another example of the ‘peaceful’ UAF.
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“I’m sure the BNP will continue ‘hiding from the UAF thugs’ and using whatever other excuse they fancy to avoid having to explain or expand on their views”
They dont have to, they have a website.
“I reiterate – she could’ve gone, no harm would’ve come to her.”
How can you be so sure?
Do you know something we dont?
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‘they don’t have to, they have a website’ – really? The BNP has a website where you can ask a question and get an answer? Please point me to it… this could be a fun night!
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well what you do is this, type in BNP in google and away you go,its that simple really……………………….
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No, done that – same old spin website. Can’t see a single question put to the BNP on there, and any comments that aren’t pro-BNP must’ve been ‘moderated’ (snigger) out. Still, will leave my comment and see what happens.
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You could always try to email the candidates instead of wasting many hours on the BNP website.
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Pardon me for butting in but you could say the same of all political party websites, they all spin for their own ends. Ask any question and all you will get is waffle and more waffle.
I am not pro BNP btw I am anti the frigging lot of them!! This country deserves what it has got coming to it when we get into hung parliament territory for allowing all of them to get away with so much for so long.
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lol I agree there, I would like to see them in person though,if this event at Thornton is on again,I will let the forum know.
Anyway you never know who is answering the email anyway, it could be the UAF, lol!
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I remember 5 years ago in Thornton, there was a forum for candidates of all the parties at the Little Theatre, perhaps it may be repeated again.I will contact the TAG chairman to see if its happening again, as I want to hear what the UKIP and BNP candidates (as the others like Penny and paul),have to say, unless the Scummy Unemployable and Filthy UAF determine otherwise of course.
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I do not in any way condone the type of violence shown by the “some” UAF supporters. However, I have personally attended many demonstrations over the years involving the NF and anti nazi league as well as in more recent times BNP and UAF.
Now I may be biased (oh – alright then, I AM biased!) but it is nearly always the fascists who start any trouble. The vast majority of anti fascists present are very peaceful but determined to counter the lies put out by the BNP. A former classmate from school (Oldham), was a prominent member of the YoungNF who went on to get involved in both combat 18 and the BNP has told me exactly what they are about.
For their candidate to not turn up out of fear is absolute rubbish! I don’t believe it for one second! I know for a 100% fact that if there was any threat of violence to any candidates my former school chum would be there, knuckleduster and all ready to give some back!
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Two wrongs don’t make a right Jon! And anyway, when you say the fascists nearly always start the trouble, do you mean UAF?
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Yes the UAF indeed, anyway the BNP no longer march and the NF is more extreme than the BNP, they are a different party.
We need sometime to counter the lies by ZaNUliebour, lol
Anyway it appears Dave Cameron supports the UAF!?
http://www.uaf.org.uk/aboutUAF.asp?choice=4
Should he not be distancing himself from these scumbags?
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The point i was making (very badly!) was that the NF and Combat 18 are at the heart of the BNP, I know this for an absolute fact! not heresay or blog gossip!
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Jon, if you know C18/NF are the heart of the BNP,as an absolute fact then you must have substantial evidence, why not produce it? on here?
I certainly dont like the NF/Combat 18, they are lunatics, like the marxist/communist UAF.
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He’s already told you what his facts are based on – that he knows someone who’s involved in it and is one of the perpetrators of violence!
But surely saying what Jon has is only like me saying all UAF are scum sucking thugs?
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The difference Phil is that this person is not alone, he is amongst their more extreme members and to be fair, he says most BNP activists don’t like the violence but he also tells me that they ARE racist and that there is a constant battle within the organisation to stay true to their ideals and appear electable. Nick Griffin has certainly learned the lessons from Sinn Fein and is rejecting violence and outright racism in order to gain votes.
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But the mainstream loves Sinn Fein these days don’t they?
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very true, the BNP cant hold a candle to sinn fein who bombed their way into Stormont, good point Phil,top comment.
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Thats true, thats why they have “modernised” and are becoming more electable.
I have no doubt a hard core element remain, in fact Mark collett who is a nazi tool was booted out recently?
BUT the issues of PC, immigration etc get ignored by the mainstream, mention BNP and peoples hair stands on end.This is the result of ostrich politics by all 3 main parties.
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Not all UAF are bad, and I dont believe all BNP are bad either to be strictly fair.
I know of a school governess who is a member and has stood for election and shes sound.
BUT the UAF unlike the BNP are backed by the establishment and trade unions;given that fact and the UAFs drift towards violence, I find thats unacceptable in a democracy.Its no good saying BNP are fascist and then having state sponsored thugs supported by the unions and labour party behaving as fascists?
It sends out a poor message and will only incraese support for the BNP by portraying the BNP as the victim.
As usual deomcracy suffers as the reasons why support for the BNP is on the increase get buried amongst all the violence.
Its creating a society of fear where if you complain against immigration, not only are you labelled racist, all come the UAF to stop debates on these issues.
The people I hate the most are LABOUR who have after 13 yaers have created a society of fear and no hope, fear of saying the wrong thing through PC fascism.
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He should be distancing himself from Unite in general.
Yet another example of the main problem with him – he doesn’t know what he wants to be! Heir to Blair? Or Maggie Reincarnate?
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Thats why i wont vote tory, DC is a joke.
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I never said they did!
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All I see is a BNP that is constantly protested about to a point where they are not able to speak to get their views across. I’m sick to death of so called anti-fascists stopping them speaking when their official line is not racist. OK combat 18 and National Front members are likely to want to be part of the BNP but Nick Griffin appears to be resisting them. If we don’t let him speak and be questioned how will we ever know if the official line is the line they really follow? If the mainstream parties had listened about the effects of rapid massive immigration into communities BNP wouldn’t have much of a vote and no seats at council, national or european levels.
How can it be right for the UAF to disrupt a march against Islamic extremism? Surely we’re all against that, including the vast majority of muslims?
I’m equally sick of this sort of tactic in mainstream parties. The whole purpose of the election campaign seems to be Labour making obviously false accusations against the Conservatives. We can expect the same sort of tactic against the LibDems now that they are more popular and more of the monetary bribes to areas in marginal seats Labour needs to win.
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I see the Gasjet site has gone mad again in respect of this issue.
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Mass deletions?
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Link this page on there if you want mate
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http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/BNP-back-down-over-demo.6239187.jp
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I meant you can link this site on theirs. Subvert the deleters!
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lol i am not a member of the gasjet site, can u help TB?
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Done!
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cheers jon
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